[AusNOG] Curly One

Joseph Goldman joseph at goldman.id.au
Thu Sep 26 15:43:40 AEST 2024


They would say that, as if 99.999% of people are working but a few 
outliers are having issues then they'd not want to spend the time 
deep-diving logs.

Shaun's findings are spot on - and i'd be confirming you are seeing the 
same, that you get a valid response to the original request and that you 
are getting similar error (403) for that resource which would indicate 
it definitely IS a website issue, but it'll be up to them to tell you 
why they are denying it. Perhaps superloop got a new block of IPs that 
are flagged in the GeoIP DB they use? Have you seen a correlation with 
the users assigned public IP such as are they all in the same 
subnet/supernet block? Would definitely explain why same laptop works on 
some  internet connections but not on others, still without it being a 
direct network issue.

Perhaps reach out to the site again with a src IP, datetime and the 
resource thats getting 403'd (with a snapshot of request/response 
headers) so they might be able to actually go log hunting for you.

------ Original Message ------
From: "TWIG Solutions" <sales at twig.com.au>
To: "AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net" <AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
Sent: 26/09/2024 3:29:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Curly One

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>  They have said there is no issue on the website end..
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>On 26/09/2024 14:35, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>>What do the backend website owners AXS and Cloudflare have to say, I’d 
>>strongly suggest if your get a white page it’s nothing to do with the 
>>ISP’s you mentioned, also it loads fine here on all of the networks I 
>>manage.
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>>From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> 
>><mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of TWIG Solutions 
>><sales at twig.com.au> <mailto:sales at twig.com.au>
>>Date: Thursday, 26 September 2024 at 14:19
>>To: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net<AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net> 
>><mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
>>Subject: [AusNOG] Curly One
>>
>>Afternoon All,
>>   I have an issue with some of my clients, which I discovered while 
>>looking into the issue for 1 client.   After testing from various 
>>other geographically and ISP diverse clients I discovered it's pretty 
>>wide spread issue.
>>
>>The issue is that the website below will only display a blank white 
>>page for most clients, definitely ALL clients (I have tested) using 
>>Exetel/Superloop FTTN, FTTC and select FTTP.
>>
>>https://fanaccount.axs.com.au/login <https://fanaccount.axs.com.au/>
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>>Yet some clients, when they view the site on the same laptop when at 
>>home (Telstra), it loads fine and shows a login page.  They come back 
>>to the office, and it wont.   My own service when it was FTTC, didnt 
>>work, now I am FTTP it works.
>>
>>I did some tracing and discovered that as soon as the data traverse a 
>>certain link,  it fails.   I passed all my findings to 
>>Exetel/Superloop technical and it's been now been in hand since 
>>25/6/24 and revived again on 26/8/24  (after the original ticket was 
>>closed with no resolution).   Nor they are saying its a website issue, 
>>and they suggested installing a CORs extension on Chrome as it "fixed" 
>>it for them.  Not a secure solution, but I tested extension on 3 
>>clients, still no good, and why only for some clients??.
>>
>>So again I am waiting for responses, and  the initial client who 
>>reported to me is getting very p*ssed off with the delays.  They use 
>>the site a lot booking tickets for their clients etc...
>>
>>Traces shown below, I wonder if anyone can test and advise, perhaps 
>>look at the traces you get if it does or doesn't work, as it seem 
>>Exetel/Superloop are stumped.
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Mal
>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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>>My Service    Working
>>Service:  1000/50 FTTP
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>>Tracing route to fanaccount.axs.com.au.cdn.cloudflare.net 
>>[172.64.151.20]
>>over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>
>>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  [redacted]
>>   2     4 ms     3 ms     4 ms   [redacted]
>>   3     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  202.90.206.198
>>   4     3 ms     3 ms     *     
>>Bundle-Ether30.bdr02-ipt-639garde-syd.au.superloop.com [103.200.13.65]
>>   5     3 ms     4 ms     8 ms  27.122.122.15
>>   6     4 ms     6 ms     3 ms  108.162.247.77
>>   7     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  172.64.151.20
>>
>>
>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>Client 1   Not Working
>>
>>Tracing route to fanaccount.axs.com.au.cdn.cloudflare.net 
>>[2606:4700:4400::6812:24ec]
>>over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>
>>   1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>   2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>   3    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  [redacted]
>>   4     *        *       11 ms  r0q86sqz1y5z2lmg941.ip6.superloop.au 
>>[2401:d000:3401::31]
>>   5     *       10 ms     *     
>>bundle-ether32.bdr02-ipt-639garde-syd.au.superloop.net.co 
>>[2401:d000:10:100::2c1]
>>   6    32 ms    13 ms    24 ms  q4b0lhjpx7wd2m4dptk.ip6.superloop.au 
>>[2401:d000:3202::12]
>>   7    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  2400:cb00:26:3::
>>   8    10 ms    10 ms    10 ms  2606:4700:4400::6812:24ec
>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>Initial Client - NOT WORKING
>>
>>Tracing route to fanaccount.axs.com.au.cdn.cloudflare.net 
>>[2606:4700:4400::6812:24ec]
>>over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>
>>   1     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>   2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>   3     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  2406:3400:0:1::1
>>   4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>   5     9 ms     9 ms     *     
>>bundle-ether32.bdr02-ipt-639garde-syd.au.superloop.net.co 
>>[2401:d000:10:100::2c1]
>>   6    17 ms    24 ms    21 ms  q4b0lhjpx7wd2m4dptk.ip6.superloop.au 
>>[2401:d000:3202::12]
>>   7    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  2400:cb00:491:3::
>>   8     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  2606:4700:4400::6812:24ec
>>
>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>Client 2   Not Working
>>
>>Pinging fanaccount.axs.com.au.cdn.cloudflare.net [172.64.151.20] with 
>>32 bytes of data:
>>Reply from 172.64.151.20: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
>>Reply from 172.64.151.20: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
>>Reply from 172.64.151.20: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
>>Reply from 172.64.151.20: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=58
>>
>>Ping statistics for 172.64.151.20:
>>     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
>>Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
>>     Minimum = 13ms, Maximum = 13ms, Average = 13ms
>>
>>
>>Tracing route to fanaccount.axs.com.au.cdn.cloudflare.net 
>>[172.64.151.20]
>>over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>
>>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms   [redacted]
>>   2    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms   [redacted]
>>   3    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  10.1.23.54 [10.1.23.54]
>>   4    13 ms    13 ms    12 ms  
>>Bundle-Ether200.bdr02-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com 
>>[116.255.21.108]
>>   5    13 ms     *       13 ms  
>>Bundle-Ether32.bdr02-ipt-639garde-syd.au.superloop.com [103.200.13.70]
>>   6    13 ms    13 ms    14 ms  27.122.122.15
>>   7    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  108.162.250.5
>>   8    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  172.64.151.20
>>
>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>Client 3   Not Working
>>
>>Tracing route to fanaccount.axs.com.au.cdn.cloudflare.net 
>>[104.18.36.236]
>>over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>
>>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms   [redacted]
>>   2     1 ms     2 ms     1 ms   [redacted]
>>   3     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  10.1.21.186
>>   4     2 ms     2 ms     1 ms  
>>Bundle-Ether200.bdr02-ipt-47bourke-syd.au.superloop.com 
>>[116.255.21.108]
>>   5     2 ms     1 ms     2 ms  
>>Bundle-Ether32.bdr02-ipt-639garde-syd.au.superloop.com [103.200.13.70]
>>   6     3 ms     2 ms     5 ms  27.122.122.15
>>   7     3 ms     3 ms     2 ms  108.162.247.83
>>   8     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  104.18.36.236
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