[AusNOG] Optus Hack

Giles Pollock glp71s at gmail.com
Tue Sep 27 11:03:56 AEST 2022


As someone who's been on both sides of this particular fence, can we please
PLEASE start doing away with using SMS as a second factor? Also, it might
be time to start looking at policies on information collection and storage
through some different lenses, previously we've been paranoid about
collecting identity information for signing up to services, largely pushed
by anti-terrorism laws... But the focus was always on collection and
immediate verification, not whether or not this information should be
stored nor how or why.

Too many businesses at this point have a "eh, she'll be right" sort of
attitude towards customer data security which leaves room for misuse and
abuse wide open... I remember asking back when the My Health Record opt-out
was happening what happened to the information collected for the opt-out.
It consisted of the same sort of critical identity documentation, yet there
was no policy described which explained the data lifecycle of information
collected for the purpose of actioning the opt-out. This is depressingly
common, heaps of places and things collect information, but never actually
define what they're going to do with it once the purpose of its collection
is complete.

In my position (formal and informal) I know full well these sorts of
breaches are constant and pervasive, and the only reason we're seeing all
the noise about Optus is because its in the media... Nobody mentions the
dozen other breaches which never got detected!

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 10:49 AM Damien Gardner Jnr <rendrag at rendrag.net>
wrote:

> Personally, I find putting Authentication on my API endpoints to be a
> FANTASTIC first step towards API security.  And then not even using public
> IP addresses in test environments is a pretty good second step..
> </onlyhalfsarcasticherewhydoesthiskeephappening>
>
> On Tue, 27 Sept 2022 at 10:46, Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously a big week in telco and cybersecurity.  As part of my work I am
>> on the Australian Cyber Security Industry Advisory Committee as an industry
>> representative.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am keen to look at opening up a dialogue with more and more telco, DC
>> and Cloud CISO’s on what they are doing around this issue and looking to
>> take a proactive step towards best practice on customer data and system
>> security.
>>
>>
>>
>> There will be some pretty serious consequences of this hack on the
>> industry and importantly we need to make sure we are as best placed to help
>> each other continually increase in security posture through best practice,
>> but also working with each other as an industry.
>>
>>
>>
>> Are people keen on having a online/VC session sometime in the next few
>> weeks where like-minded industry participants get together and discuss
>> security, retention, encryption, threat detection etc.?  If so, just ping
>> me directly and if there is enough interest I will send out an invitation
>> to the list for a call.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> [b]
>>
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