[AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022

Glenn Satchell glenn.satchell at uniq.com.au
Thu Jan 13 17:57:08 AEDT 2022


We ditched the fax at work about 5 years ago when we realised we hadn't 
sent or received one for about 6 months :)

No-one missed it.

As for ISDN, we ditched our 64k ISDN line back in the 90s!

Now, about that Frame Relay connection... ha ha

regards
Glenn

On 2022-01-13 16:18, Bradley Amm wrote:

> In Japan faxes are used by almost everyone because the government won't 
> allow any other way to send documents to them. Even Covid results were 
> being faxed around.
> 
> Healthcare still loves it as it's more secure than email apparently.
> Yes let's send test results via fax so they can sit in the machine in 
> full view of anyone who goes to them
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS [5]
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> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Nathan 
> Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 1:13:33 PM
> To: 'jay binks' <jaybinks at gmail.com>; 'ausnog at lists.ausnog.net' 
> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022
> 
> Sometimes you just don't have a choice, just like faxing, it should 
> have been DEAD 10 years ago....
> 
> From: jay binks <jaybinks at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 4:01 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Cc: Steven Waite <Steven.Waite at comtel.com.au>; Matthew Moyle-Croft 
> <mmc at mmc.com.au>; russell3901 at gmail.com; Nathan Brookfield 
> <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022
> 
> Nathan,
> 
> Just because you can, doesn't mean you should !
> 
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 14:53, Nathan Brookfield 
> <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> wrote:
> 
>> It sure does, we have a client who does this for Broadcast over to the 
>> UK with Tieline devices at each end, almost fell off my chair when it 
>> worked....
>> 
>> Nathan Brookfield
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>> From: Steven Waite <Steven.Waite at comtel.com.au>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 3:45 PM
>> To: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au>; Nathan Brookfield 
>> <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; russell3901 at gmail.com
>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: RE: [AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022
>> 
>> 56k Still works well over G711 with no VAD very well if you have full 
>> control end to end 😊. Like been retro
>> 
>> Steven Waite
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>> Comtel Pty Ltd
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Matthew 
>> Moyle-Croft
>> Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2022 2:40 PM
>> To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>; 
>> russell3901 at gmail.com
>> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022
>> 
>> Unrelated to the ISDN Issue below:
>> 
>> I feel that this almost declares the end of the era of analogue modem 
>> calls. Wonder if Russell can help with the last 56k modem call, at 
>> least, on Telstra's network?
>> 
>> Should be recorded for posterity and to make sure analogue modems 
>> finally die and can be all buried in landfill after being set on fire.
>> 
>> MMC
>> (I'm not suffering any PTSD from them, no sir).
>> 
>>> On 13 Jan 2022, at 2:18 pm, Nathan Brookfield 
>>> <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Guy,
>>> 
>>> I believe this would indeed be a hard date for them, the shutdown 
>>> started in 2019 and has been well reported and notified to customers, 
>>> there is no going back from this one unfortunately.  There are lots 
>>> of good middle ground alternatives though to move them between a half 
>>> Analogue and Digital world but they're going to have to get cracking 
>>>>>> 
>>> Nathan Brookfield
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Guy Ellis
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 2:38 PM
>>> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
>>> Subject: [AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> We have a customer that is somewhat exposed here and has way too many 
>>> ISDN lines still in service.
>>> 
>>> I'm curious to here if anyone else is in the same boat, and is the 
>>> entire ISDN network going to be switched off on the date?
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> - Guy
>>> 
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