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<p>We ditched the fax at work about 5 years ago when we realised we hadn't sent or received one for about 6 months :)</p>
<p>No-one missed it.</p>
<p>As for ISDN, we ditched our 64k ISDN line back in the 90s!</p>
<p>Now, about that Frame Relay connection... ha ha</p>
<p>regards<br />Glenn</p>
<p id="reply-intro">On 2022-01-13 16:18, Bradley Amm wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr" style="color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">In Japan faxes are used by almost everyone because the government won't allow any other way to send documents to them. Even Covid results were being faxed around. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">Healthcare still loves it as it's more secure than email apparently. </div>
<div dir="ltr" style="color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">Yes let's send test results via fax so they can sit in the machine in full view of anyone who goes to them</div>
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<p class="v1x_MsoNormal">Sometimes you just don't have a choice, just like faxing, it should have been DEAD 10 years ago....</p>
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<p class="v1x_MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> jay binks <jaybinks@gmail.com> <br /><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, January 13, 2022 4:01 PM<br /><strong>To:</strong> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br /><strong>Cc:</strong> Steven Waite <Steven.Waite@comtel.com.au>; Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@mmc.com.au>; russell3901@gmail.com; Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022</p>
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<p class="v1x_MsoNormal">Nathan,</p>
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<p class="v1x_MsoNormal">Just because you can, doesn't mean you should ! </p>
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<p class="v1x_MsoNormal">On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 14:53, Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au" rel="noreferrer">Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="v1x_MsoNormal">It sure does, we have a client who does this for Broadcast over to the UK with Tieline devices at each end, almost fell off my chair when it worked....</p>
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<p class="v1x_MsoNormal">-----Original Message-----<br />From: AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" rel="noreferrer">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> On Behalf Of Matthew Moyle-Croft<br />Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2022 2:40 PM<br />To: Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au" rel="noreferrer">Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au</a>>; <a href="mailto:russell3901@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer">russell3901@gmail.com</a><br />Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" rel="noreferrer">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br />Subject: Re: [AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022<br /><br />Unrelated to the ISDN Issue below:<br /><br />I feel that this almost declares the end of the era of analogue modem calls. Wonder if Russell can help with the last 56k modem call, at least, on Telstra's network?<br /><br />Should be recorded for posterity and to make sure analogue modems finally die and can be all buried in landfill after being set on fire.<br /><br />MMC<br />(I'm not suffering any PTSD from them, no sir).<br /><br />> On 13 Jan 2022, at 2:18 pm, Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au" rel="noreferrer">Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au</a>> wrote:<br />><br />> Hi Guy,<br />><br />> I believe this would indeed be a hard date for them, the shutdown started in 2019 and has been well reported and notified to customers, there is no going back from this one unfortunately. There are lots of good middle ground alternatives though to move them between a half Analogue and Digital world but they're going to have to get cracking <span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI Emoji',sans-serif;">☹</span><br />><br />> Nathan Brookfield<br />><br />> -----Original Message-----<br />> From: AusNOG <<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" rel="noreferrer">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>> On Behalf Of Guy Ellis<br />> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2022 2:38 PM<br />> To: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" rel="noreferrer">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br />> Subject: [AusNOG] ISDN shutdown 31 May 2022<br />><br />> Hi all,<br />><br />> We have a customer that is somewhat exposed here and has way too many ISDN lines still in service.<br />><br />> I'm curious to here if anyone else is in the same boat, and is the entire ISDN network going to be switched off on the date?<br />><br />> Kind regards,<br />><br />> - Guy<br />><br />> --<br />> Guy Ellis<br />> Mobile +61 419 398 234<br />> AU 03 9489 6678<br />> NZ 09 884 9756<br />> <a href="http://www.traverse.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">www.traverse.com.au</a><br />><br />><br />> --<br />> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br />> <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.avast.com/antivirus</a><br />><br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" rel="noreferrer">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br />> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br />> _______________________________________________<br />> AusNOG mailing list<br />> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" rel="noreferrer">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br />> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br /><br />_______________________________________________<br />AusNOG mailing list<br /><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" rel="noreferrer">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br /><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a></p>
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