[AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability (Bevan Slattery)
Craig Newton
cnewton at nexusglobalcom.com
Mon Feb 21 11:59:16 AEDT 2022
Morning Bev,
Currently KU VSAT is probably still the best option.
Could possibly look at using a Kymeta terminal until the likes of Starlink and OneWeb are online and marinized.
We have some hire hardware we could bundle with capacity to save double spending on hardware.
Regardless I would always have an L-Band solution on the boat for emergency use.
Reach out if you would like to run through some link budgets 👍
Cheers,
Craig
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 16:46:55 +1000
From: Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
To: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability
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Hi all,
Keen to see from industry what the best sat service option/hardware is for one of my boats.??It?s a large research boat that heads a fair way out to see (Raine Island for example).??Being 100-300km off-shore the ocean gets a bit ?pitchy? :). Obviously something with Starlink is preferred (but also know a marinised version is later this year), but also keen to see what are the best rates/deals on more traditional satellite tech and bandwidth offers.??Hoping there?s peeps on here with some maritime capability or contacts.
Cheers
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 07:01:32 +0000
From: Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com>
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability
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Hi all.
Interested in this too. We have teams go offshore for few days/ weeks doing surveys
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Hi all,
Keen to see from industry what the best sat service option/hardware is for one of my boats. It?s a large research boat that heads a fair way out to see (Raine Island for example). Being 100-300km off-shore the ocean gets a bit ?pitchy? :). Obviously something with Starlink is preferred (but also know a marinised version is later this year), but also keen to see what are the best rates/deals on more traditional satellite tech and bandwidth offers. Hoping there?s peeps on here with some maritime capability or contacts.
Cheers
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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 08:18:33 +0000
From: "Minchin, Tom (IM&T, Black Mountain)" <Tom.Minchin at csiro.au>
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Hello,
We use Home | Acutec - Communications, Entertainment & IT at Sea<https://acutec.com/> on the RV Investigator<https://mnf.csiro.au/en/RV-Investigator>. It is ok had it for a while as then it was the only decent non military coverage for going down to the south pole area. It is VSAT. Big money each month. It?s a bundle of data/voice/handset.
We are watching Starlink too for their marine version too.
Tom
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Subject: [AusNOG] Research Boat Satellite Capability
Hi all,
Keen to see from industry what the best sat service option/hardware is for one of my boats. It?s a large research boat that heads a fair way out to see (Raine Island for example). Being 100-300km off-shore the ocean gets a bit ?pitchy? :). Obviously something with Starlink is preferred (but also know a marinised version is later this year), but also keen to see what are the best rates/deals on more traditional satellite tech and bandwidth offers. Hoping there?s peeps on here with some maritime capability or contacts.
Cheers
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:23:00 +1100
From: Luke Thompson <luke.t at tncrew.com.au>
To: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet
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Hi folks,
For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work.
We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we can transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good opportunity to replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The hand-off will be SFP+ rather than SFP.
Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot failures, we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to have a bit of resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than single-core, and 1-4GB RAM rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc).
What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder.
This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a fair while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right and repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and look to re-do it again fairly soon.
One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them behind a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though would rather keep that for the DCs.
Any and all insights much appreciated!
Cheers,
Luke Thompson
Operations Manager
The Network Crew Pty Ltd
https://thenetworkcrew.com.au
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 11:29:18 +1100
From: Jennifer Sims <jenn at jenn.id.au>
To: Luke Thompson <luke.t at tncrew.com.au>
Cc: AusNOG Mailing List <ausnog at ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet
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In a former life, I used to suggest supply of the below:
https://mikrotik.com/product/CCR1009-7G-1C-1SplusPC
I use one on my FTTP 1G connection and it copes quite happily.
Jeen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 11:23 AM Luke Thompson <luke.t at tncrew.com.au> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> For a long while we've leveraged 1G hardware within our office
> environments. Thankfully, we're soon to have fibre at work.
>
> We're waiting for NBN Enterprise Ethernet to be fulfilled now so we
> can transition from copper to fibre, and it presents a good
> opportunity to replace our non-DC routers while we're at it. The
> hand-off will be SFP+ rather than SFP.
>
> Ideally keeping away from lock-in models (ie. Meraki), what's
> recommended and where would you seek it out? In terms of slot
> failures, we'd probably prefer 2x SFP+ cages rather than 1x, and to
> have a bit of resource overhead (ie. 2-4 cores rather than
> single-core, and 1-4GB RAM rather than 512MB/etc) so we have room for other services (VPN, DNS, etc).
>
> What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options, likewise MikroTik
> have some RB/CCR models that look suitable. WISP seem to have some
> low-spec MikroTiks in-stock that would suit, though without much
> resource overhead to leverage. We're happy to compromise, the main
> consideration is that it balances out to being a solid all-rounder.
>
> This is a situation where we haven't changed the configuration in a
> fair while, so are open to ideas. We'd rather get this change right
> and repeat it as time goes on, rather than make the wrong move and
> look to re-do it again fairly soon.
>
> One final factor is security - we'd prefer a vendor who issues patches
> as-needed, rather than quickly EOLing devices and/or hiding them
> behind a subscription. If the value's there, we can look at it, though
> would rather keep that for the DCs.
>
> Any and all insights much appreciated!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Luke Thompson
> Operations Manager
>
> The Network Crew Pty Ltd
> https://thenetworkcrew.com.au
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:34:22 +1000
From: Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net>
To: ausnog at ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet
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On 21/02/2022 10:23, Luke Thompson wrote:
> What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options,
*chuckles*
> likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable.
>
> Any and all insights much appreciated!
Here's one insight
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 10:38:37 +1000
From: Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net>
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10G/SFP+ Router for NBN Enterprise Ethernet
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I realise you asked for router (bit slow today mondayitis on top of a cold and only 1 coffee) but the router differences are much the same, anyone who installs ubiquiti in anything more than a soho or some env, will regret it soon enough (fanbois and bandwagon jumpers excluded)
cheers :)
On 21/02/2022 10:34, Noel Butler wrote:
> On 21/02/2022 10:23, Luke Thompson wrote:
>
>> What do you recommend? Ubiquiti make some options,
>
> *chuckles*
>
>> likewise MikroTik have some RB/CCR models that look suitable.
>>
>> Any and all insights much appreciated!
>
> Here's one insight
>
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> Regards,
> Noel Butler
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