[AusNOG] Bit of a long shot but...

Phil Mawson phil.mawson at gmail.com
Sun Dec 5 17:15:28 AEDT 2021


Hi Giles,

I have emailed you off list.

Cheers, 
Phil


> On 5 Dec 2021, at 5:13 pm, Giles Pollock <glp71s at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yup got it, didn't want to disrupt your sunday! I'll drop you an email with some details
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 3:25 PM Justin Courtney <justinjoncourtney at gmail.com <mailto:justinjoncourtney at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I replied to you with a contact off list.  Did you get it Giles?
> 
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, 14:18 Giles Pollock, <glp71s at gmail.com <mailto:glp71s at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Not exactly, they are paying for the domain name via Melbourne IT (sigh) and for other email hosting services, which is why this has apparently gone unnoticed for some time. The web hosting and one of the other email hosting services seems to have simply vanished some time ago, a few years after we had a similar issue where it vanished from the bills and I caught on to the fact the bill was way lower than it should have been. I think because it is a small client on shared and very much obsolete infrastructure, nobody ever noticed... The webserver is still running Apache 2.2.16, which went EOL years ago.
> 
> Ideally if the billing situation does get fixed as I expect it will be, I would hope the service would be migrated to infrastructure that isn't so old it could feasibly be entering highschool by now!
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 2:10 PM Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>> wrote:
> Are they just getting it for free?
> 
> On 5 Dec 2021, at 14:06, Giles Pollock <glp71s at gmail.com <mailto:glp71s at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> 
> Apparently not! It is looking more and more like the whole service has been forgotten about. There is also a web and domain hosting arrangement which seems to have vanished, although the service obviously still exists. Interestingly this isn't the first time this has happened either, but being such a small thing nobody ever really noticed.
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 1:57 PM Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au <mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at iperium.com.au>> wrote:
> They’ve probably just been billed by Vocus directly?
> 
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> On 5 Dec 2021, at 13:49, Giles Pollock <glp71s at gmail.com <mailto:glp71s at gmail.com>> wrote:
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> I've checked with my client and they've never had any dealings with Commander, so if it has gone to them, then chances are the service has fallen through the cracks. I suspect Monday will be rather interesting if I have to try and work my way through the contact centres to figure out where it has all gone!
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 1:37 PM Andrew Robinson <andrew at thetubes.com.au <mailto:andrew at thetubes.com.au>> wrote:
> I believe that it may be managed by Commander. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Andrew
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Justin Courtney <justinjoncourtney at gmail.com <mailto:justinjoncourtney at gmail.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, December 5, 2021 1:35:03 PM
> To: Giles Pollock <glp71s at gmail.com <mailto:glp71s at gmail.com>>
> Cc: <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>> <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Bit of a long shot but...
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> [This email originated from outside the organisation]
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> Do you know it's name, a realm, something?  
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> On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, 13:33 Giles Pollock, <glp71s at gmail.com <mailto:glp71s at gmail.com>> wrote:
> It was once eftel, and prior to that it was a company called impaq back in the early 2000s. I know eftel has moved some of their mail services over to iprimus resources, but this particular server definitely hasn't been moved....
> 
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 1:28 PM Justin Courtney <justinjoncourtney at gmail.com <mailto:justinjoncourtney at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Which provider is it?  Eftel mostly but not completely went one way.
> 
> On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, 12:28 Giles Pollock, <glp71s at gmail.com <mailto:glp71s at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Does anyone know who now looks after the old email services inherited from Eftel, which Eftel inherited from previous other consolidation/merger activities? I'm fairly sure an email server hosting a client of mine has been forgotten about and has managed to run out of disk space, and I can't seem to get hold of anyone who recognises it actually exists...
> 
> Starting to feel a bit like this has come to life... http://bash.org/?5273 <http://bash.org/?5273>
> 
> Giles
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