<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Giles,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have emailed you off list.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica, Helvetica;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Cheers, <br class="">Phil</div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 5 Dec 2021, at 5:13 pm, Giles Pollock <<a href="mailto:glp71s@gmail.com" class="">glp71s@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Yup got it, didn't want to disrupt your sunday! I'll drop you an email with some details</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 3:25 PM Justin Courtney <<a href="mailto:justinjoncourtney@gmail.com" class="">justinjoncourtney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">I replied to you with a contact off list. Did you get it Giles?</div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, 14:18 Giles Pollock, <<a href="mailto:glp71s@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">glp71s@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Not exactly, they are paying for the domain name via Melbourne IT (sigh) and for other email hosting services, which is why this has apparently gone unnoticed for some time. The web hosting and one of the other email hosting services seems to have simply vanished some time ago, a few years after we had a similar issue where it vanished from the bills and I caught on to the fact the bill was way lower than it should have been. I think because it is a small client on shared and very much obsolete infrastructure, nobody ever noticed... The webserver is still running Apache 2.2.16, which went EOL years ago.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ideally if the billing situation does get fixed as I expect it will be, I would hope the service would be migrated to infrastructure that isn't so old it could feasibly be entering highschool by now!</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 2:10 PM Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">Nathan.Brookfield@iperium.com.au</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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On 5 Dec 2021, at 14:06, Giles Pollock <<a href="mailto:glp71s@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">glp71s@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Apparently not! It is looking more and more like the whole service has been forgotten about. There is also a web and domain hosting arrangement which seems to have vanished, although the service obviously still exists. Interestingly this isn't
the first time this has happened either, but being such a small thing nobody ever really noticed.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">I've checked with my client and they've never had any dealings with Commander, so if it has gone to them, then chances are the service has fallen through the cracks. I suspect Monday will be rather interesting if I have to try and work my way
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<div dir="ltr" class="">It was once eftel, and prior to that it was a company called impaq back in the early 2000s. I know eftel has moved some of their mail services over to iprimus resources, but this particular server definitely hasn't been moved....</div>
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<div dir="auto" class="">Which provider is it? Eftel mostly but not completely went one way.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">Does anyone know who now looks after the old email services inherited from Eftel, which Eftel inherited from previous other consolidation/merger activities? I'm fairly sure an email server hosting a client of mine has been forgotten about and
has managed to run out of disk space, and I can't seem to get hold of anyone who recognises it actually exists...
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<div class="">Starting to feel a bit like this has come to life... <a href="http://bash.org/?5273" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">
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