[AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP

Thu Jul 23 14:58:16 EST 2020

Another option would be getting a cheap OpenWRT device, and writing something small to copy the sims.

If you're in Perth, I've got some stock of cheap OpenWRT devices which can read SMS's, then just pipe them into whatever you need with a small script.

OpenWRT can handle MMS with libmms, just a matter of working out where you want it to dump the files (could use an AWS S3 bucket or similar).

I also know Arduino also has similar capability, there's a thread on the forums about sending and receiving MMS.

Thanks,
Jett Jackson
Automation Engineer

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Psionyde
Sent: 23 July 2020 12:47 PM
To: Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au>
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP

Expanding on this idea, SMS Backup Plus (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync) can automatically transfer SMS/MMS(/call logs) to an attached gmail/IMAP account. SMS content is stored in the message body with MMS content being saved as an attachment. App can be configured to run on a schedule and/or on message arrival depending on your tolerance for latency. 

-Adrian

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 16:53, Joseph Goldman <mailto:joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:
Hi Stephen,

 Have you looked at another side - of perhaps sitting the SIM in an Android phone, on charge, and mounted indefinitely - with using a web-based app like Android Messages (or other SMS apps that allow you to login through web to get your messages etc on desktop) - then just call-forward always on the voice side to a SIP landing number? I'm sure you could also get an app (or have one developed cheap from india) that can package up the SMS/MMS and email it to you also - and even back the other way if you email it back auto sends it out.

 Not sure how 'multi-user' this will be, depends on the app and if it allows multiple sessions at once through the web, and it will possibly incur call-forward costs on the Voice side - and you can present your MSN as CLID on the outbound leg when required (if this is still allowed).

Thanks,
Joe
On 16/07/2020 4:33 pm, Stephen wrote:
Hi John, 

They are particularly keen on keeping their numbers - will the redirect cover SMS/MMS as well, or only voice? Additionally they want to keep receiving calls on these same numbers, so it may not work - but nonetheless, still keen to hear your response. 

As far as for received calls, they would be looking to actually receive and talk with someone - either by redirect to another number, or by actually receiving the call on a SIP trunk etc. Unfortunately sounds like it may not work with you guys in this instance, but if not, will definitely file it away for future reference :) Thanks! 

On 16 Jul 2020, at 14:50, mailto:john.h at welcorp.com wrote: 

Hi Stephen 

We at can handle inbound and outbound MMS and SMS through virtual MSISDN's, and will deliver the MMS payload via email, so you don’t have to "login" to get the MMS. Many older longcodes aren't capable of using this service so new numbers may be needed and a redirect if you need to keep your existing numbers. 

We can also terminate inbound VoIP, but we only do this with fixed line numbers, and not the same number as the SMS and MMS. Also interested to find out what you'd like to do with the call once received, eg - play a message, record a response or keypad input, and then email the response - something along those lines? 

So it all seems doable, unless you need the same mobile number to do SMS, MMS and inbound to SIP. Our solution would be inbound SMS and MMS to one number, inbound voice to another number. Hope you find the right solution. 

Cheers 
John 

John Hoffman 
CEO 
WEL Corporation Pty Ltd 
Mob/Cell +61 (0)427 185 038 
http://www.welcorp.com 

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Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 2:27 PM 
To: Stephen mailto:ausnog at privanon.me 
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP 

We came up with a simple solution for this however not for MMS just the SMS side. 

A Small Teltonika IOT router with a $1/m SIM card from TPG. Teltonika has a built in SMS > Email feature. We looked at many options which were Hundreds of dollars per year and we got away with this for $1/Month + the initial hardware which in out case we already had. 

Keen to see what you come up with that covers MMS also. 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:48 PM Stephen mailto:ausnog at privanon.me wrote: 

Hi Nathan, 

Thanks for the reply - not sure if that was separately directed just at Shaun for the mobile aspect, or also at my original request, but just to clarify I’ve spoken with Maxotel, and they offer every aspect of the above except for MMS (currently just a feature request). Cheers! 

On 16 Jul 2020, at 13:08, Nathan Brookfield wrote: 

Hi Shaun, 

I believe Maxotel may also offer a Mobile product like this as well, it may be worth reaching out to Alex and the team and checking in on what they can offer, they’ve got a pretty solid service. 

Kindest Regards, 

Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB) 

Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd 

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Deans 
Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 1:26 PM 
To: Stephen mailto:ausnog at privanon.me 
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP 

Stephen; 

I currently use an AU Mobile number hosted with Twilio and route the inbound SMS to email (via a webhook) and our inbound calls are routing in via SIP. 

Twilio's MMS in Australia is converted to an SMS by the carrier with an embedded URL and password in the SMS. You then log into a mini site hosted by the carrier and download the MMS attachment. 

With a bit of code, the login to the site could be scraped and you could have your SMS to Email and Sip calls. 

If your interested in scoping something out I can certainly assist you. 

Cheers 

Shaun Deans 
M: 041 880 4195 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:33 PM Stephen mailto:ausnog at privanon.me wrote: 

Hi folks, 

Been looking for a solution that will allow us to either 

a) Pop some SIM cards in a device, or 
b) Port mobile numbers over to a VoIP provider 

And upon doing so, receive calls to SIP, and SMS+MMS to email. I can’t 
really find any products that can do this, and Twilio has confirmed 
they can’t do it (MMS specifically) - same with Maxotel. Most 
providers seem to do VoIP + SMS, but not MMS. Most devices I’ve found 
will either do calls but not MMS+SMS, or MMS+SMS to email but no calls. 

Can anyone make some suggestions around possible products? Or am I 
restricted to putting permanent redirects on the mobile numbers with 
and 
SMS+MMS receiving device? If so, are there any “industry standard” 
ones here? Specifically it’s 3 SIM cards that we need to support. 

Thanks! 
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