[AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP

Thu Jul 23 14:46:56 EST 2020

Expanding on this idea, SMS Backup Plus (
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync) can
automatically transfer SMS/MMS(/call logs) to an attached gmail/IMAP
account. SMS content is stored in the message body with MMS content being
saved as an attachment. App can be configured to run on a schedule and/or
on message arrival depending on your tolerance for latency.

-Adrian

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 at 16:53, Joseph Goldman <joe at apcs.com.au> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
>  Have you looked at another side - of perhaps sitting the SIM in an
> Android phone, on charge, and mounted indefinitely - with using a web-based
> app like Android Messages (or other SMS apps that allow you to login
> through web to get your messages etc on desktop) - then just call-forward
> always on the voice side to a SIP landing number? I'm sure you could also
> get an app (or have one developed cheap from india) that can package up the
> SMS/MMS and email it to you also - and even back the other way if you email
> it back auto sends it out.
>
>  Not sure how 'multi-user' this will be, depends on the app and if it
> allows multiple sessions at once through the web, and it will possibly
> incur call-forward costs on the Voice side - and you can present your MSN
> as CLID on the outbound leg when required (if this is still allowed).
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
> On 16/07/2020 4:33 pm, Stephen wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> They are particularly keen on keeping their numbers - will the redirect
> cover SMS/MMS as well, or only voice? Additionally they want to keep
> receiving calls on these same numbers, so it may not work - but
> nonetheless, still keen to hear your response.
>
> As far as for received calls, they would be looking to actually receive
> and talk with someone - either by redirect to another number, or by
> actually receiving the call on a SIP trunk etc. Unfortunately sounds like
> it may not work with you guys in this instance, but if not, will definitely
> file it away for future reference :) Thanks!
>
> On 16 Jul 2020, at 14:50, john.h at welcorp.com wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen
>
> We at can handle inbound and outbound MMS and SMS through virtual
> MSISDN's, and will deliver the MMS payload via email, so you don’t have to
> "login" to get the MMS. Many older longcodes aren't capable of using this
> service so new numbers may be needed and a redirect if you need to keep
> your existing numbers.
>
> We can also terminate inbound VoIP, but we only do this with fixed line
> numbers, and not the same number as the SMS and MMS. Also interested to
> find out what you'd like to do with the call once received, eg - play a
> message, record a response or keypad input, and then email the response -
> something along those lines?
>
> So it all seems doable, unless you need the same mobile number to do SMS,
> MMS and inbound to SIP. Our solution would be inbound SMS and MMS to one
> number, inbound voice to another number. Hope you find the right solution.
>
> Cheers
> John
>
> John Hoffman
> CEO
> WEL Corporation Pty Ltd
> Mob/Cell +61 (0)427 185 038
> www.welcorp.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>
> <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Cameron Murray
> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 2:27 PM
> To: Stephen <ausnog at privanon.me> <ausnog at privanon.me>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP
>
> We came up with a simple solution for this however not for MMS just the
> SMS side.
>
> A Small Teltonika IOT router with a $1/m SIM card from TPG. Teltonika has
> a built in SMS > Email feature. We looked at many options which were
> Hundreds of dollars per year and we got away with this for $1/Month + the
> initial hardware which in out case we already had.
>
> Keen to see what you come up with that covers MMS also.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 2:48 PM Stephen <ausnog at privanon.me>
> <ausnog at privanon.me> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Nathan,
>
> Thanks for the reply - not sure if that was separately directed just at
> Shaun for the mobile aspect, or also at my original request, but just to
> clarify I’ve spoken with Maxotel, and they offer every aspect of the above
> except for MMS (currently just a feature request). Cheers!
>
> On 16 Jul 2020, at 13:08, Nathan Brookfield wrote:
>
> Hi Shaun,
>
>
>
> I believe Maxotel may also offer a Mobile product like this as well, it
> may be worth reaching out to Alex and the team and checking in on what they
> can offer, they’ve got a pretty solid service.
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
>
>
> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)
>
> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>
>
>
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>
> <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Shaun
> Deans
> Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 1:26 PM
> To: Stephen <ausnog at privanon.me> <ausnog at privanon.me>
> Cc: ausnog at ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] MMS + SMS to email with Calls to SIP
>
>
>
> Stephen;
>
>
>
> I currently use an AU Mobile number hosted with Twilio and route the
> inbound SMS to email (via a webhook) and our inbound calls are routing in
> via SIP.
>
> Twilio's MMS in Australia is converted to an SMS by the carrier with an
> embedded URL and password in the SMS. You then log into a mini site hosted
> by the carrier and download the MMS attachment.
>
>
>
> With a bit of code, the login to the site could be scraped and you could
> have your SMS to Email and Sip calls.
>
>
>
> If your interested in scoping something out I can certainly assist you.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Shaun Deans
> M: 041 880 4195
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:33 PM Stephen <ausnog at privanon.me>
> <ausnog at privanon.me> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Been looking for a solution that will allow us to either
>
> a) Pop some SIM cards in a device, or
> b) Port mobile numbers over to a VoIP provider
>
> And upon doing so, receive calls to SIP, and SMS+MMS to email. I can’t
> really find any products that can do this, and Twilio has confirmed
> they can’t do it (MMS specifically) - same with Maxotel. Most
> providers seem to do VoIP + SMS, but not MMS. Most devices I’ve found
> will either do calls but not MMS+SMS, or MMS+SMS to email but no calls.
>
> Can anyone make some suggestions around possible products? Or am I
> restricted to putting permanent redirects on the mobile numbers with
> and
> SMS+MMS receiving device? If so, are there any “industry standard”
> ones here? Specifically it’s 3 SIM cards that we need to support.
>
> Thanks!
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