[AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?

Jason Leschnik jason at leschnik.me
Sat Jan 26 15:00:32 EST 2019


>  New Zealand went with fibre to the node stage 1 then stage 2 fibre to
the house.

I feel like this would have been a better way to go about the problem. I
agree with Fibre being the ideal solution as an end-game but having a well
fleshed out staged implimentation over a few years possibly would have been
more robust.

Thanks for the detailed reply!

On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 23:45, Chris Hurley <chris at minopher.net.au> wrote:

> NBN ws a classic case of a race horse designed by a committee (you get a 3
> legged camel) and noses in the trough. It’s now here and a growing a number
> of customers are resisting moving across but under the rules once in an
> area you have X months to migrate – end of story so a new monopoly. To
> eventually be sold off for a profit??????
>
> Personally the original plan of fibre to the house was the correct
> solution, and some people 100’s of Km from main route mmm sadly might have
> to accept an alternative solution or pay $$$$$, but touchy feely people
> didn’t like that reality. The NBN got too political to achieve what the
> initial design wanted sadly. New Zealand went with fibre to the node stage
> 1 then stage 2 fibre to the house.
>
> Another minor fact that slipped through was Telstra offered free of charge
> to connect every politicians office (and maybe home to fibre – source vary)
> so of course our leaders think internet is great. I was at a Malcom
> Turnball town hall meeting when he promised the world with the NBN and his
> minders tried to shut down my questions "Why are politicians getting ‘free’
> fibre and the people in this area can’t even get sub ADSL speeds".
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris Hurley BE (Elec)
> Signal Manager
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> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Bryan
> O'Reilly <bryan at telcoindependent.com.au>
> Date: Thursday, 24 January 2019 at 4:44 pm
> To: 'Jason Leschnik' <jason at leschnik.me>, "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <
> ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?
>
> As a telco mentor of mine said (no names as he’s on this list)
>
> “NBN co are doing a good job with a sh&t set of policies.”
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Jason
> Leschnik
> *Sent:* Thursday, 24 January 2019 2:04 PM
> *To:* AUSNOG <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] NBN as an end to end solution - Failure or Success?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I'm just trying to get myself a little bit better informed about NBN as an
> end to end solution. I see a lot of angst out in the community about the
> different access types (FTTx) and the remaining aging Copper portion of the
> network and how far behind we are. I also see people happy with the
> upgrades and improvements. So it's hard to gauge the real success or
> failure of the network.
>
>
>
> Currently I've been seeing people using "NBN" both as a tool to vent
> frustration about the Government and their own Internet access. All that
> aside, with the mixed media network we have now, is it as bad as people
> say? Or is it just a case of an incremental step forward?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jason.
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