[AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

[Nick Stallman]

Governments have the power to pass any bill they want, and they can 
waive around any sovereign rights they want as well.

It doesn't mean the bills will match reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill


On 13/09/18 15:13, Paul Wilkins wrote:
> Mark,
> An enabler? I wish. The government is perfectly capable of passing the 
> Assistance and Access Bill without my help.
>
> There's a compelling argument that encryption doesn't negate the 
> sovereign right of the Crown to conduct wiretap surveillance subject 
> to judicial writ. I recognise the need to extend judicial writ to the 
> cyber domain. So do plenty of other people, inside and outside of 
> government, so it's happening, regardless of the objections of 
> hardline privacy advocates.
>
> I want this regime to be effective and implemented properly, with 
> checks and balances consistent with a liberal democracy, and 
> proportionate to the need for privacy. If I contribute to the process, 
> it's to ensure a better outcome than had I stood idle and silent.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 12:58, Mark Smith <markzzzsmith at gmail.com 
> <mailto:markzzzsmith at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     You realise you're being an enabler don't you?
>
>     On Thu., 13 Sep. 2018, 09:35 Paul Wilkins,
>     <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         If there were an equivalent to certificate transparency logs
>         for our data retention laws and for these proposed technical
>         assistance requests, you could be sure that they'd be used
>         much more responsibly and sparingly.
>
>         I like this idea, a lot.
>
>         In my submission I raised the possibility of a single agency
>         acting as a clearing house for judicial writs, and issuing per
>         warrant SSL certificates to secure warrant data as part of the
>         process. The idea to have them implement certificate
>         transparency is excellent, and I'd support any representation
>         to government urging them to resource such efforts. However,
>         it's going to be a struggle, given where, if you've noticed,
>         gov.au is not yet DNSSEC signed - which I find deliciously
>         ironic, the government issuing itself new powers to protect
>         our cyber security, while their whole TLD flaps in the breeze...
>
>         Kind regards
>
>         Paul Wilkins
>
>
>         On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 21:52, Paul Gear
>         <ausnog at libertysys.com.au <mailto:ausnog at libertysys.com.au>>
>         wrote:
>
>             On 12/09/18 17:04, Mark Newton wrote:
>             > ...
>             > There is no democratic brake on the advancement of the
>             intelligence
>             > community’s powers, they continue to do whatever the
>             hell they want,
>             > with no recourse.
>             > ...
>
>             ^ This.  Those in power continue to wield it in ways which
>             benefit
>             themselves rather than all of us.  I'm not sure what the
>             entire solution
>             is, but part of it surely must include being open to
>             scrutiny by the
>             general public.  If there were an equivalent to
>             certificate transparency
>             logs for our data retention laws and for these proposed
>             technical
>             assistance requests, you could be sure that they'd be used
>             much more
>             responsibly and sparingly.
>
>             I would also add that nor is there a brake on the
>             advancement of Silicon
>             Valley's powers.  Imagine if the same public (or
>             near-public) scrutiny
>             were available for the decisions that large Internet,
>             financial, and
>             advertising firms make about us...
>
>             Paul
>
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