[AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

[Paul Wilkins]

"Sure they will be able to enforce it against others, but their whole
argument for these laws is to go after those actors when it is manifestly
ineffective for that."

Yes, and no. There's actors, and then there's their actions. There's 2
different sorts of traffic on the internet that law enforcement & security
services want to go after - broadcast (eg: social media), and point to
point. When it comes to identifying users of social media using it for
illegal ends, this is something that should have been done ages ago, should
have been a priority before Data Retention. When it comes to isolating
actors with a serious agenda to use end to end to encryption for nefarious
means, I figure most everybody realises this is like looking for a needle
in a haystack.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins




On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 01:07, <trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> On Sun, 2 Sep 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote:
>
> > The government is going to be able to enforce the Assistance and Access
> Bill, because to operate a business in Australia,
> > requires a local presence. Your trade marks and intellectual property
> need recognition, and you require a registered company to
> > conduct business and to hold bank accounts. If you won't comply with
> assistance/capability notices, you won't be able to conduct
> > business in Australia.
>
> Telegram and Signal have none of those and work fine here. Arguably
> neither is a business, certainly in the traditional sense of the word. And
> yet they offer precisely what the "worst of the worst" desire - end-to-end
> encryption that, as you so clearly point out, the Australian government
> has no power to prevent.
>
> Sure they will be able to enforce it against others, but their whole
> argument for these laws is to go after those actors when it is manifestly
> ineffective for that.
>
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