[AusNOG] Telstra and Vocus Peering

[Jim Woodward]

I agree, both Telstra and Optus peering agreements are specifically written in a way that anyone other than a national competitor of equivalent size would be excluded from eligibility and as John said earlier even large content providers (e.g. a Netflix, Google or an Amazon) with presence in a few major centres would not qualify per the requirements laid out in that agreement with private discussions between those entities notwithstanding. 

 

Kind Regards,

Jim.

 

 

From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
Sent: Wednesday, 24 October 2018 10:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra and Vocus Peering

 

This appears to be orchestrated to allow Vocus in to the gang so the ACCC will settle down.  It seems to be they would be the people likely to Qualify and not really anyone else. 

Matt



On 24/10/18 9:35 am, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:

I think it'd be brave to say that.

 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:55 AM Cameron Murray <cameron.murray at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.murray at gmail.com> > wrote:

some of us.

 

On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 8:24 AM Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc at mmc.com.au <mailto:mmc at mmc.com.au> > wrote:

Looking at 3.6:

 

3.6 The peering partner's nationally deployed resilient Internet backbone network should 

operate on circuits of at least 50% of Telstra’s Internet backbone network from Perth 

to Brisbane that is dedicated to public Internet traffic.

 

I'd ask who qualifies at all? 

 

MMC

 





On 24 Oct 2018, at 7:05 am, John Edwards <jaedwards at gmail.com <mailto:jaedwards at gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Links to peering docs from the ACCC web site: 

 

https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/products/data_ip/Telstra%20Wholesale%20Internet1/Telstra%20Peering%20Guidelines.pdf

https://www.tpg.com.au/peering-guidelines

https://www.optus.com.au/content/dam/optus/documents/wholesale/fixed/Optus%20IP%20Interconnect%20Policy%20-%20Summary_2018.pdf

http://www.verizonenterprise.com/terms/peering/

 

These things do have a tendency to disappear from web sites over time so if you aspire to one day peer with the big guys I recommend that you save a copy of each of these

 

The Telstra and TPG documents mention "Sender Keep All", which implies that the IP itself is "free"

 

The Telstra standard for peering is exclusive - requiring interconnection in Darwin AND Hobart, which probably rules out most of the International content providers that setup in Sydney

 

John

 

 

On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 00:56, Bradley Amm <brad at bradleyamm.com <mailto:brad at bradleyamm.com> > wrote:

 <https://www.crn.com.au/news/optus-telstra-tpg-publish-peering-criteria-for-interested-isps-514364> https://www.crn.com.au/news/optus-telstra-tpg-publish-peering-criteria-for-interested-isps-514364

 <https://www.computerworld.com.au/article/648621/no-need-regulate-isp-peering-arrangements-accc-says/> https://www.computerworld.com.au/article/648621/no-need-regulate-isp-peering-arrangements-accc-says/

Doesn't say if its paid or settlement free



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