[AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

[Bradley Amm]

So I guess its unlikely that HE will fix the routing to Telstra, Optus,
AAPT anytime soon.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Nick Stallman <nick at agentpoint.com>
Date: 16/5/18 7:32 am (GMT+08:00)
To: Pieter Berkel <pieter.berkel at gmail.com>, McDonald Richards <
mcdonald.richards at gmail.com>
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] HE Routing (not a joke)

A beancounter must have realised they had lots of unused Australia -> US
capacity and decided they wanted to make some profit from it.

On 16/05/18 09:29, Pieter Berkel wrote:

Fair -- but where does "bits we both end up paying for" fit into that
spectrum?


On 16 May 2018 at 09:25, McDonald Richards <mcdonald.richards at gmail.com>
wrote:

> standard route policy: bits you pay me for > bits I get for free > bits I
> pay for.
>
> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Pieter Berkel <pieter.berkel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Matt and Gavin are right: this asymmetric routing seems to only impacts
>> providers that buy transit from HE in SJC (TPG and Vocus being the two main
>> ones I've noticed).  It would appear from the below post that HE policy is
>> to preference transit over peering links (presuming that AS paths for both
>> are the same length?):
>>
>> https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=233
>> 763&page_no=2#2006292
>>
>> (Although I'm not quite sure how the reverse might break routing, it
>> might break their business model?).  I guess it's up to Vocus & TPG to
>> figure out how fix if it becomes a problem for them.
>>
>> Edwin: there is some merit to having a routable /48 to experiment with,
>> not sure if Internode supply that sort of IPv6 subnet to ADSL customers?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 May 2018 at 09:05, Dave Browning <dave at sentrian.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> All good if on MegaIX SYD
>>>
>>> Tracing route to tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50]
>>> over a maximum of 30 hops:
>>>
>>>   1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  vl666.cr01.b1.bne.qld.au.sentrian.net.au
>>> [103.226.9.138]
>>>   2    15 ms    16 ms
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=2%C2%A0+%C2%A0+15+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+16+ms&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>   14 ms  vl3.cr01.s1.syd.nsw.au.sentrian.net.au [103.226.9.245]
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=245%5D+%0D%0A%C2%A0+3%C2%A0+%C2%A0+13+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+16+ms&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>   3    13 ms    16 ms    14 ms  as6939.sydney.megaport.com
>>> [103.26.68.236]
>>>   4    12 ms    19 ms
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=4%C2%A0+%C2%A0+12+ms%C2%A0+%C2%A0+19+ms&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>   15 ms  tserv1.syd1.he.net [216.218.142.50]
>>>
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