[AusNOG] $300 NBN Connection Fee for FTTP?

Thu Mar 22 15:11:44 EST 2018

>
> But if she has to pay to get a copper line in order to get FTTN it sounds
> like a pretty bad deal. The standard cost is $500, isn't it?
>

Standard install cost is ~#300.  Compared to the FTTP technology choice
upgrade $ of 4-5 figures it isn't too bad.

She already has an Optus SIM and the base station is pretty close and her
> 4G service would be way faster than 20Mbps which is the best she would get
> on NBN.
>

1. 4G will probably be faster than NBN correct.  If you don't use much data
then it could be an option.
2. She might get much faster than 20Mbps.  The majority of the country will
get > 50Mbps.

  Given that Optus now offer unmetered access to Netflix,

Only on a mobile device and in standard definition.

 I can't really see that she would have much use of a fixed broadband
> solution unless the FTTN was to give you a much cheaper upgrade path to
> FTTP sometime in the near future.
>

There is no upgrade path from FTTN to FTTP.  Subscribing now won't make a
future FTTP upgrade any cheaper.

Kind Regards,

Nick Kamenyitzky

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On 22 March 2018 at 15:02, Ken Sayers <kens at acm.org> wrote:

> 
> Yeah,
> But if she has to pay to get a copper line in order to get FTTN it sounds
> like a pretty bad deal. The standard cost is $500, isn't it?
> She already has an Optus SIM and the base station is pretty close and her
> 4G service would be way faster than 20Mbps which is the best she would get
> on NBN.
> Given that Optus now offer unmetered access to Netflix, which is her
> preferred entertainment solution, I can't really see that she would have
> much use of a fixed broadband solution unless the FTTN was to give you a
> much cheaper upgrade path to FTTP sometime in the near future. Otherwise,
> she'll just stick to mobile and chromecast to a larger screen.
> There has to be a compelling story for her to bother with getting
> connected.
> Regards Ken Sayers
>
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> On 22 March 2018 at 13:39, Paul Brooks <pbrooks-ausnog at layer10.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>> Ken - for a single house on a single block of land, she'll probably get
>> whichever technology the neighbours are allocated, which you can find out
>> from the NBN website lookup tool by moving the red pin around. If the block
>> is in a FTTN area, then there's likely to already be a copper trunk cable
>> running down the street to service the neighbours, so nobody would be
>> 'laying new copper' down the street for that block of land - just a new
>> copper line from the house (once its built) to the street to connect in to
>> the nearest junction pit, just like any new house in the pre-NBN days.
>>
>> I think the bit about FTTP being preferred for new homes applies to large
>> property developments of 100 dwellings or more.
>>
>> This is actually the sort of query that NBN's call centre should be able
>> to answer, since she can't go through a RSP as she hasn't got the property
>> or ordered a service yet. (1800 687 626 <1800%20687%20626>)
>>
>> Paul.
>>
>>
>> On 21/03/2018 5:13 PM, Ken Sayers wrote:
>>
>> 
>> My daughter is looking to buy a vacant block
>> of land in Foster Victoria and build a house on it. Foster is pretty
>> strange in that large parts of the town seem to be on NBN Fixed Wireless
>> and other parts on FTTN, but if she builds a new house I understand,
>> according to the NBN website, that FTTP is the preferred technology to
>> build. It would seem pretty dumb to lay new copper in order to provide FTTN
>> when my daughter will probably not want a landline phone.
>> It would be cheaper to just say 'connect via fixed wireless' but looking
>> at Street View it looks like the fixed wireless tower is hidden behind
>> trees.
>> Is this what is likely to happen, that NBN Co run a dedicated fibre from
>> the closest node to the new house?
>> Any tips appreciated.
>> Regards Ken Sayers
>>
>> On Mon., 19 Mar. 2018, 22:57 Jason Leschnik, <jason at leschnik.me> wrote:
>>
>>> So George, make sure that fee gets paid as it makes the NBN look $300
>>>> cheaper than it actually is.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The whole NBN debate has always confused me. Without offsetting the cost
>>> how would either Government have afforded the NBN? The bill shock from $300
>>> NDF is annoying to say the least but I've spent >$300 on some pretty stupid
>>> things in my life and I'm sure there are others who would've paid a lot
>>> more than $300 to get FTTP/FTTN.
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