[AusNOG] [AUSNog] : Re Data Centre Fire Suppression Safety

[John Edwards]

FM200 gas is banned for new systems in Europe due to HFC pollutants. It is
not a good idea to install it today.

This gas is stored at high pressure - if it leaked you would be aware of
the explosive decompression, even without the alarms.

I can confirm that inhaling this stuff won't immediately kill you, but my
personal experience is that breathing it in just once is about as healthy
for your lungs as a cigarette habit.

John


On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 12:40, Adam Gibson <a.gibson at springfieldcitygroup.com>
wrote:

> FM200 is still used in a few DC’s in Sydney and Brisbane to my knowledge.
> But is costly to replace due to environmental charges.
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> In Polaris we check all our bottles in accordance to the fire program
> (which was approved upon completion with the fire code of that time) which
> is every year, bottles are check and every month, fire tech comes out to
> inspect gauges release valves and all control boards. All bottles are to be
> replaced every 10 years of less and  Co2 bottles to replaced every 3 years.
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> In my opinion, fire is something that is neglected a lot in DC’s.
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> AG
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> Adam Gibson
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> *Head of Data Centres*
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> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Bruce
> Forster
> *Sent:* Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:36 AM
> *To:* chris.ford at inaboxgroup.com.au
> *Cc:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNog] : Re Data Centre Fire Suppression Safety
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> Pretty sure halon is banned, but fm200 is the gas used these days?
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> https://www.safelife.az/en/index.php/services/firefighting-by-gas.html
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> Firstly, the most important advantage of the use of chemical gas - it is
> safe for people and electronic equipment. During fire fighting gas is used
> in a concentration not to be harmful to human health and life. When using
> the FM200 gas concentration of oxygen in the room is reduced by 3%. Along
> with the fact that such a composition of the air is not sufficient to
> continue the fire, it allows people who are there to breathe.
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> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:01 AM Chris Ford <chris.ford at inaboxgroup.com.au>
> wrote:
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> As a university cadet working for IBM in the late 80s I remember getting
> inducted into the Westpac data centres and getting a long explanation of
> what to do when the halon system went off – where the breathing gear was,
> where the exits were, to basically just drop everything and run.
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> Have been inducted into a few DCs in the last 3 years and can’t remember
> that being part of the induction at all – although given I already knew it
> I may have just glossed over that part.
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> Chris Ford
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> Chief Technology Officer
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> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Wilkins
> *Sent:* Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:53 AM
> *To:* AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> *Subject:* [AusNOG] [AUSNog] : Re Data Centre Fire Suppression Safety
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> Every data centre has a fire suppression system. We're not used to
> thinking of this as a hazardous environment, but consequent to two techs
> being found dead working on a fire suppression system in Antarctica
> <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/12/antarctica-two-technicians-dead-mcmurdo-station-ross-island>,
> I find myself wondering yet again, why there aren't more stringent controls
> around the fire suppression systems in data centres: viz - when you enter a
> data centre, how confident can you be you're not going to be quietly
> asphyxiated?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
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> Regards,
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> Bruce
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