<div dir="ltr">FM200 gas is banned for new systems in Europe due to HFC pollutants. It is not a good idea to install it today.<div><br></div><div>This gas is stored at high pressure - if it leaked you would be aware of the explosive decompression, even without the alarms.</div><div><br></div><div>I can confirm that inhaling this stuff won't immediately kill you, but my personal experience is that breathing it in just once is about as healthy for your lungs as a cigarette habit.</div><div><br></div><div>John</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 at 12:40, Adam Gibson <<a href="mailto:a.gibson@springfieldcitygroup.com">a.gibson@springfieldcitygroup.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>FM200 is still used in a few DC’s in Sydney and Brisbane to my knowledge. But is costly to replace due to environmental charges.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In Polaris we check all our bottles in accordance to the fire program (which was approved upon completion with the fire code of that time) which is every year, bottles are check and every month,
fire tech comes out to inspect gauges release valves and all control boards. All bottles are to be replaced every 10 years of less and Co2 bottles to replaced every 3 years.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>In my opinion, fire is something that is neglected a lot in DC’s.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Forster<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:36 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] [AUSNog] : Re Data Centre Fire Suppression Safety<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Pretty sure halon is banned, but fm200 is the gas used these days?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;color:#666666">Firstly, the most important advantage of the use of chemical gas - it is safe for people and electronic equipment. During fire fighting gas is used in a concentration not to be harmful to human
health and life. When using the FM200 gas concentration of oxygen in the room is reduced by 3%. Along with the fact that such a composition of the air is not sufficient to continue the fire, it allows people who are there to breathe.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 10:01 AM Chris Ford <<a href="mailto:chris.ford@inaboxgroup.com.au" target="_blank">chris.ford@inaboxgroup.com.au</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As a university cadet working for IBM in the late 80s I remember getting inducted into the Westpac data centres and getting a long explanation of what to do when the halon system
went off – where the breathing gear was, where the exits were, to basically just drop everything and run.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have been inducted into a few DCs in the last 3 years and can’t remember that being part of the induction at all – although given I already knew it I may have just glossed over
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 13 December 2018 10:53 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [AusNOG] [AUSNog] : Re Data Centre Fire Suppression Safety</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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Every data centre has a fire suppression system. We're not used to thinking of this as a hazardous environment, but consequent to
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/12/antarctica-two-technicians-dead-mcmurdo-station-ross-island" target="_blank">
two techs being found dead working on a fire suppression system in Antarctica</a>, I find myself wondering yet again, why there aren't more stringent controls around the fire suppression systems in data centres: viz - when you enter a data centre, how confident
can you be you're not going to be quietly asphyxiated?<br>
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