[AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

Paul Wilkins paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
Thu Aug 16 11:42:43 EST 2018


Bradley,
To be clear, lawyer, spouse confidentiality is qualified. It depends on
circumstances.

As to whether priests' and therapists' communications should enjoy
qualified privilege, that's a whole other debate :)

I "lost" the SSH key sounds like the dog ate my homework - tell it to the
judge.

This is not Orwellian, as it's not mass surveillance. It's enforcing the
existing process of judicial warrants to the cyber domain. This was always
inevitable, and should have been done long ago, and only hasn't because of
the dilatory legislative process. It has allowed threats to representative
democracy to get ahead of the curve.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 at 11:16, Bradley Silverman <
bsilverman at staff.ventraip.com> wrote:

> @Paul I can tell a lawyer, priest, therapist or spouse my secrets and the
> judicial system can't force them to give up the information. Are you saying
> those laws need to be changed too?
>
> What if I had done nothing wrong, had a device that was using a SSH key to
> access and legitimately lost the private key, should I spend 10 years in
> jail because I lost a file?
>
> It's incredibly short sighted to say, we should give the government full
> access to monitor anything and everything I do, which is what this is
> leading towards, because only bad people need privacy.
>
> I can actually *hear* Orwell rolling in his grave.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bradley Silverman | VentraIP Australia
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> On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I believe the point of not surrendering a password or private key, is to
>> frustrate due judicial process. It's no different to barricading the door
>> if the police turn up with a search warrant - it's obstruction of justice,
>> and the only reason people won't surrender keys is fear of the consequences
>> of discovery of admissible evidence. The cyber domain has always been
>> subject to the rule of law, same as the rest of society.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Paul Wilkins
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 at 11:02, Christian Heinrich <
>> christian.heinrich at cmlh.id.au> wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.crikey.com.au/2018/08/15/encryption-bill-password-jail/ is
>>> behind a paywall but it makes the point in their preview.
>>>
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