<div dir="ltr"><div>Bradley,</div><div>To be clear, lawyer, spouse confidentiality is qualified. It depends on circumstances.</div><div><br></div><div>As to whether priests' and therapists' communications should enjoy qualified privilege, that's a whole other debate :)</div><div><br></div><div>I "lost" the SSH key sounds like the dog ate my homework - tell it to the judge.</div><div><br></div><div>This is not Orwellian, as it's not mass surveillance. It's enforcing the existing process of judicial warrants to the cyber domain. This was always inevitable, and should have been done long ago, and only hasn't because of the dilatory legislative process. It has allowed threats to representative democracy to get ahead of the curve.<br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div>Kind regards</div><div><br></div><div>Paul Wilkins<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 at 11:16, Bradley Silverman <<a href="mailto:bsilverman@staff.ventraip.com">bsilverman@staff.ventraip.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">@Paul I can tell a lawyer, priest, therapist or spouse my secrets and the judicial system can't force them to give up the information. Are you saying those laws need to be changed too?<div><br></div><div>What if I had done nothing wrong, had a device that was using a SSH key to access and legitimately lost the private key, should I spend 10 years in jail because I lost a file?<br><br>It's incredibly short sighted to say, we should give the government full access to monitor anything and everything I do, which is what this is leading towards, because only bad people need privacy.<div><br></div><div>I can actually <i>hear</i> Orwell rolling in his grave.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_6971886827125995897gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Regards,<div><br></div><div>Bradley Silverman | VentraIP Australia<br><b>Technical Operations</b><br><br>mobile. +61 418 641 103<br>phone. +61 3 9013 8464<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Paul Wilkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paulwilkins369@gmail.com" target="_blank">paulwilkins369@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I believe the point of not surrendering a password or private key, is to frustrate due judicial process. It's no different to barricading the door if the police turn up with a search warrant - it's obstruction of justice, and the only reason people won't surrender keys is fear of the consequences of discovery of admissible evidence. The cyber domain has always been subject to the rule of law, same as the rest of society.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards</div><span class="m_6971886827125995897HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Paul Wilkins<br></div></font></span></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_6971886827125995897h5"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 at 11:02, Christian Heinrich <<a href="mailto:christian.heinrich@cmlh.id.au" target="_blank">christian.heinrich@cmlh.id.au</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_6971886827125995897h5"><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.crikey.com.au/2018/08/15/encryption-bill-password-jail/" target="_blank">https://www.crikey.com.au/2018/08/15/encryption-bill-password-jail/</a> is behind a paywall but it makes the point in their preview.<br><br>-- <br>Regards,<br>Christian Heinrich<br><br><a href="http://cmlh.id.au/contact" target="_blank">http://cmlh.id.au/contact</a></div></div></div><span>
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