[AusNOG] Government intends to pass TSSR this parliament

[Mark Newton]

They won't use WhatsApp because they already use Signal.

Yes, they seem to have no idea that they're arguing in favor of making their private intra-Party discussion available to the Feds. 

You'd think the ALP would give that a bit of thought, considering what ASIO were doing to them throughout the 1970s.

   - mark

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> On 13 Jun 2017, at 18:12, Martin Hepworth <maxsec at gmail.com> wrote:
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> We'll see how it does once they get to use WhatsApp like the UK Conservative Party and realise the political fallout if the newpapers are able to break this along with the voicemail!
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> Martin Hepworth, CISSP
> Oxford, UK
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>> On 13 June 2017 at 08:57, Nathanael Bettridge <nathanael at prodigy.com.au> wrote:
>> That’s the most terrifying line in his speech tbh. The privacy of someone who has not been found guilty of a crime should only be overridden by a judge, considering all the factors.
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>> Also, https://xkcd.com/538/ comes to mind J
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>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Phillip Grasso
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>> To: Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org>
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>> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Government intends to pass TSSR this parliament
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>> "The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public safety. Never."
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>> Is it a question of privacy or cost? The means exist to decrypt, its just more expensive. 
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>> On 13 June 2017 at 00:16, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
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>> Brandis: "Trust me, we only want the envelope, not the content."
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>> <David Speers interviews him to see what that actually means, everybody laughs>
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>> Brandis: "Actually, we want the content too."
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>> <silence>
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>>   - mark
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>> On 06/13/2017 04:16 PM, James Andrewartha wrote:
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>> https://www.pm.gov.au/media/2017-06-13/national-security-statement
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>> Also includes the usual BS about breaking encryption in the name of
>> national security, aka the war on maths.
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>> "However encrypted messaging applications are also used by criminals and
>> terrorists - at the moment much of this traffic is difficult for our
>> security agencies to decrypt, and indeed for our Five Eyes partners as
>> well.
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>> Most of the major platforms of this kind are based in the United States
>> where a strong libertarian tradition resists Government access to private
>> communications as the FBI found when Apple would not help unlock the
>> iPhone of the dead San Bernardino terrorist.
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>> The privacy of a terrorist can never be more important than public safety.
>> Never."
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