[AusNOG] Borrowed addresses, data retention, court orders etc.
    James Hodgkinson 
    yaleman at ricetek.net
       
    Sun Jan 29 18:18:14 EST 2017
    
    
  
Wordpress-based, colour me unsurprised.
James
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017, at 16:51, Shane Short wrote:
> Maybe you should pay more attention to said emails. Google suggests
> your "theispguy.com" domain is malware infested. :)
> 
> 
> Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> 
>> Hey Ross,
>> 
>> You have obligations for YOUR "network". That doesn't relate to IP
>> addresses.
>> 
>> My name is still on dozens of ranges that I managed at some point. I
>> get spam whinging emails all the time even though they haven't been a
>> customer for 10 years.
>> 
>> You have zero issues here. Simply say it is not on your network and
>> to go away.
>> 
>> 
>> ...Skeeve
>> 
>> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks
>> Pty Ltd
>> Email: skeeve at eintellegonetworks.com ; Web: eintellegonetworks.com[1]
>> Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; Skype: skeeve ; LinkedIn: /in/skeeve[2] ;
>> Expert360: Profile[3] ; Keybase: https://keybase.io/skeeve
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Ross Wheeler
>> <ausnog at rossw.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Presently a hypothetical question, but I'm sure it'll come up.
>>> 
>>>  A friend of mine of a couple of decades runs an ISP in another
>>>  state thousands of km from me. His business and mine are unrelated,
>>>  have no common directors, funding, stakeholders etc. Ie, completely
>>>  "unrelated parties" save that he and I are friends.
>>> 
>>>  Some time ago, during a relocation, he needed some addresses, I
>>>  just happened to have a /24 that I had recently moved services from
>>>  and it was mostly "vacant" and was fairly easy for me to peel it
>>>  out and lend it to him.
>>> 
>>>  It's still in my name, assigned and "owned" by me, not him,
>>>  although it is being advertised via his provider and delivered over
>>>  his link(s) to service his servers and customers.
>>> 
>>>  In time to come, if one of "his" users does something that "the
>>>  authorities" have reason to want to delve into in more detail, and
>>>  they know that a.b.c.d (being an address in my range "on loan to"
>>>  him) is the address they're interested in... how does "an approved"
>>>  party (be that a minister, a policeman, a court or whoever) go
>>>  about determining who they ask/demand information from?
>>> 
>>>  If they simply look up the apnic database and issue a "demand" to
>>>  me, for example, I will have absolutely no way to give them the
>>>  data. While I could refer them to my friend, have I got my neck in
>>>  the noose here too?
>>> 
>>>  R.
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