[AusNOG] Borrowed addresses, data retention, court orders etc.
Shane Short
shane at short.id.au
Sun Jan 29 17:51:39 EST 2017
Maybe you should pay more attention to said emails. Google suggests your
"theispguy.com" domain is malware infested. :)
Skeeve Stevens wrote:
> Hey Ross,
>
> You have obligations for YOUR "network". That doesn't relate to IP
> addresses.
>
> My name is still on dozens of ranges that I managed at some point. I
> get spam whinging emails all the time even though they haven't been a
> customer for 10 years.
>
> You have zero issues here. Simply say it is not on your network and to
> go away.
>
>
> ...Skeeve
>
> *Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect* - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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>
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>
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Ross Wheeler <ausnog at rossw.net
> <mailto:ausnog at rossw.net>> wrote:
>
>
> Presently a hypothetical question, but I'm sure it'll come up.
>
> A friend of mine of a couple of decades runs an ISP in another
> state thousands of km from me. His business and mine are
> unrelated, have no common directors, funding, stakeholders etc.
> Ie, completely "unrelated parties" save that he and I are friends.
>
> Some time ago, during a relocation, he needed some addresses, I
> just happened to have a /24 that I had recently moved services
> from and it was mostly "vacant" and was fairly easy for me to peel
> it out and lend it to him.
>
> It's still in my name, assigned and "owned" by me, not him,
> although it is being advertised via his provider and delivered
> over his link(s) to service his servers and customers.
>
> In time to come, if one of "his" users does something that "the
> authorities" have reason to want to delve into in more detail, and
> they know that a.b.c.d (being an address in my range "on loan to"
> him) is the address they're interested in... how does "an
> approved" party (be that a minister, a policeman, a court or
> whoever) go about determining who they ask/demand information from?
>
> If they simply look up the apnic database and issue a "demand" to
> me, for example, I will have absolutely no way to give them the
> data. While I could refer them to my friend, have I got my neck in
> the noose here too?
>
> R.
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