[AusNOG] QoS on Internet traffic

Mark Smith markzzzsmith at gmail.com
Sun Aug 20 11:49:41 EST 2017


Geoff arrived early, tried out QoS, wrote a book on it, then gave up on it.

http://www.potaroo.net/ispcol/2012-06/noqos.html



On 20 Aug. 2017 11:07 am, "Paul Wilkins" <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:

For those who arrived late, this 2015 article goes to some length to
elaborate on the QoS ramifications of the FCC's Title II ruling for
broadband:

https://www.cnet.com/news/13-things-you-need-to-know-about-t
he-fccs-net-neutrality-regulation/L

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

On 19 August 2017 at 15:49, Jamie Baddeley <jamie.baddeley at vpc.co.nz> wrote:

>
>
> On 19 August 2017 at 16:57, Matt Palmer <mpalmer at hezmatt.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 01:00:39PM +1000, Paul Wilkins wrote:
>> > If your client sites have redundant links, you can get massive
>> performance
>> > benefit by routing bulk transfer via the backup path.
>> >
>> > As for there is no QoS on the internet, that's mostly because US service
>> > providers are legislatively blocked from what would be a departure from
>> net
>> > neutrality.
>>
>> <eyeroll>
>>
>> It's got nothing to do with Net Neutrality.  If it was, (a) it would have
>> happened long before any of that got started, and (b) the rest of the
>> world,
>> which is not similarly constrained, would be doing it, and everything
>> would
>> be just peachy.
>>
>> No, the problem with QoS on the Internet is the same as allowing senders
>> to
>> mark e-mails with priorities: everyone thinks *their* traffic is
>> important,
>> so everyone marks their packets / e-mails as "TOP PRIORITY", and you're
>> back
>> to exactly the same situation you're in now, where everything's
>> best-effort
>> and nobody is particularly happy.
>>
>> - Matt
>>
>> Indeed. There is no QoS on the Internet because Best Effort is the only
> standard everyone can agree on. Of course some 'Best Efforts' are better
> than others, but that's life.
>
> Now, you can use some of the various techniques described in this thread.
> But that's not QoS. It's just making a better effort. Which is good.
>
> jamie
>
>
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