[AusNOG] QoS on Internet traffic

Paul Wilkins paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
Sun Aug 20 11:42:11 EST 2017


In Australia we don't have service providers constrained under Title II. We
have the NBN delivering national wholesale broadband.

All it would require for Australia to support 2 or 3 tiers of service
delivery (RTP, standard, bulk transfer) would be for the NBN to honour
service differentiation (DSCP) and for carriers to have a price incentive
(tiered pricing) to prioritise traffic.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

On 20 August 2017 at 11:07, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:

> For those who arrived late, this 2015 article goes to some length to
> elaborate on the QoS ramifications of the FCC's Title II ruling for
> broadband:
>
> https://www.cnet.com/news/13-things-you-need-to-know-about-
> the-fccs-net-neutrality-regulation/L
>
> Kind regards
>
> Paul Wilkins
>
> On 19 August 2017 at 15:49, Jamie Baddeley <jamie.baddeley at vpc.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 19 August 2017 at 16:57, Matt Palmer <mpalmer at hezmatt.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 01:00:39PM +1000, Paul Wilkins wrote:
>>> > If your client sites have redundant links, you can get massive
>>> performance
>>> > benefit by routing bulk transfer via the backup path.
>>> >
>>> > As for there is no QoS on the internet, that's mostly because US
>>> service
>>> > providers are legislatively blocked from what would be a departure
>>> from net
>>> > neutrality.
>>>
>>> <eyeroll>
>>>
>>> It's got nothing to do with Net Neutrality.  If it was, (a) it would have
>>> happened long before any of that got started, and (b) the rest of the
>>> world,
>>> which is not similarly constrained, would be doing it, and everything
>>> would
>>> be just peachy.
>>>
>>> No, the problem with QoS on the Internet is the same as allowing senders
>>> to
>>> mark e-mails with priorities: everyone thinks *their* traffic is
>>> important,
>>> so everyone marks their packets / e-mails as "TOP PRIORITY", and you're
>>> back
>>> to exactly the same situation you're in now, where everything's
>>> best-effort
>>> and nobody is particularly happy.
>>>
>>> - Matt
>>>
>>> Indeed. There is no QoS on the Internet because Best Effort is the only
>> standard everyone can agree on. Of course some 'Best Efforts' are better
>> than others, but that's life.
>>
>> Now, you can use some of the various techniques described in this thread.
>> But that's not QoS. It's just making a better effort. Which is good.
>>
>> jamie
>>
>>
>>
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