[AusNOG] Metadata breach. No, it can't be true.

Fri Apr 28 17:01:29 EST 2017

I think you'll probably find that they'd have to make a big show of any
reporting of a breach of metadata given they're under so much scrutiny -
better to say that you've cleaned up processes than have to deal with
the aftermath of failing to keep such a thing under wraps when it does
get leaked.
James

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017, at 16:59, Brad Gould wrote:
> I thought that the "breach" was that the AFP had, inadvertently,
> captured metadata about a Journalist, and that the active TIA warrant
> they were working under did not have provision for such – as that is a
> special case per the Act – a " Journalist Information Warrant".>  

> The warrant was for an AFP officer's communication, who happened to
> call a Journalist and therefor triggered a "breach".>  

> It would seem that it is hard to know, either in advance, or
> without examining the historical call records, who someone would
> call or has called.>  

> Given there was an AFP press conference about it, with the
> Commissioner no less (and not just a media release) I'm thinking that
> AFP are currently lobbying for further change to the TIA Act to make
> this accidental collection legal.>  

>  

> 
> On 28 April 2017 at 15:53, paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au[1]
> <paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:>> This hasn’t got anything to do with metadata or data retention, it’s
>> to do with the interception act, which needs a warrant, perhaps they
>> should have just used the DR regulations and they wouldn’t have all
>> the fuss LOL.____>> __ __

>> I wonder who the carrier was that released the information without a
>> warrant, I wouldn’t want to be them now either.____>> __ __

>> Paul____

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>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of
>> *James Gray *Sent:* Friday, 28 April 2017 4:19 PM *To:*
>> ausnog at ausnog.net>> 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Metadata breach. No, it can't be true.____
>> 

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>> Here's the official media release from the AFP:____

>> https://www.afp.gov.au/news-media/media-releases/afp-reports-breach-tia-act-commonwealth-ombudsman____>> __ __

>> Cheers,____

>> __ __

>> James____

>> __ __

>> On 28 April 2017 at 16:17, paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au[2]
>> <paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au> wrote:____>> True, not  a public breach, just a breach by an organisation that
>> should be able to be trusted……____>>  ____

>> Paul____

>>  ____

>> *From:* AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of
>> *Tim Raphael *Sent:* Friday, 28 April 2017 4:11 PM *To:* Nick Pratley
>> *Cc:* ausnog at ausnog.net *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Metadata breach. No,
>> it can't be true.____>>  ____

>> Depends, ____

>>  ____

>> This wasn’t a public breach… I guess it depends on how the breach
>> laws classify it as such.____>>  ____

>> - Tim____

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>>> On 28 Apr 2017, at 4:06 pm, Nick Pratley
>>> <nick.pratley at serversaustralia.com.au> wrote:____>>>  ____

>>> Wouldn't they have to notify the party under the new data breach
>>> laws, or am I reading that wrong?____>>> ____

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>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Angelo Giuffrida
>>> <angelo.giuffrida at gmail.com> wrote:____>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-28/afp-officer-accessed-journalists-call-records-in-metadata-breach/8480804
>>> for those playing at home.____>>>  ____

>>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Nathan Brookfield
>>> <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au> wrote:____>>>> Metadata related to a journalist breached by the AFP without a
>>>> warrant.____>>>>  ____

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>>>> 
>>>> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Mark
>>>> Dignam <mark at innaloo.net> *Sent:* Friday, 28 April 2017 3:34 PM
>>>> *To:* ausnog at ausnog.net *Subject:* [AusNOG] Metadata breach. No, it
>>>> can't be true. ____>>>>  ____

>>>>  ____

>>>> No, we would never have guessed it would happen… ____

>>>>  ____

>>>> https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/857824045416435714____

>>>>  ____

>>>> *#BREAKING: The AFP will hold a news conference at 3.30pm AEST in
>>>> what Sky News understands is in regards to a metadata breach*____>>>>  ____

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