[AusNOG] RISK - IT Industry - Concern Over Equipment Being, Installed in Data Centre Facilities - Further Replies

[Jim Woodward]

+1 with everyone else that would like a stop thread on this, it's 
starting to overlap the same subject matter and really needs it's own 
mailing list or forum as I only have paid for the five minute argument 
and I think we've got our full five minutes worth :) </montypython>

Jim.


On 28/09/2016 10:43 AM, Nathanael Bettridge wrote:
> Hi Skeeve,
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
>> Skeeve Stevens
>>
>> A lot of people have this idea that everything should be openly discussed
>> because doing it helps us all understand the situation and we can all
>> contribute and solve the problem. This is a stupid idea mostly perpetrated by
>> people who is not the person actually at most risk or the most to lose.
> As others have mentioned, the obscurity vs public discussion matter is at the very least debatable if not entirely debunked. It's still a natural tendency though for people to want to conceal "dangerous" information.
>
>> Should we openly discuss, on an archived list, with press watching. how we
>> could use household goods to make explosives?
>> Or talk about how easy it is to make certain bioweapons and the different
>> ways we could deploy them?
> No, because they would be off-topic :)
> It's also possibly illegal to give too much detail on that in Australia, though it probably shouldn't be if it is.
>
>> Or should we perhaps talk about how easy it is to commit fraud?
> It's come up in other lists and here from memory a few times.
>
>> Yes... lets give blueprints to people who are motived by malice so that they
>> can go off and do what we're suggesting puts us at risk.
> If people want to do bad things they'll do it regardless. It's not hard to figure out. At least we can be aware of the possibilities for defensive planning.
>
>> Suitable forums are private industry ones with a membership criteria which is
>> often gated to certain professions, peer recommendations, and so on.
> You are welcome to restrict your own participation in these kinds of discussions to those forums of course.
> Others can make their own decisions on that.
>
> -Nathanael Bettridge
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