[AusNOG] RISK - IT Industry - Concern Over Equipment Being, Installed in Data Centre Facilities

[Mark Newton]

This is an outstandingly stupid thread.

   - mark


On 26 Sep 2016, at 2:42 PM, Alan Maher <alanmaher at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would respectfully suggest that the biggest risk to any data centre,
> (excluding a disgruntled employee) would be from small aircraft.
> While the safety record of large passenger jets has improved beyond
> previous years, the safety record of small planes has not.
> Locating a data centre outside the flight path of large planes is a good
> idea, but that makes no difference to small planes which seemingly
> crash constantly in the US, and without due regard to where they crash.
> Just type into google, small plane crash, and you will get the drift.
> As for the Chinese Space station, I suspect the Chinese have sufficient technology
> available to bring it down with missiles, and if not, the then US or Russia would.
> Most likely over the Pacific Ocean, like all the others .
> 
> Cheers
> Alan Maher
> 
> On 26/09/2016 4:32 p.m., Paul Wilkins wrote:
>> Someone also needs to do a risk assessment of the Chinese space station landing on your data centre.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> Paul Wilkins
>> 
>> On 26 September 2016 at 13:10, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au <mailto:chad at cpkws.com.au>> wrote:
>> On 9/26/2016 9:34 AM, ausnog-request at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog-request at lists.ausnog.net> wrote:
>> In the last week, in reflection of previous data centre tours I have
>> undertaken across the country and the risks that face us all within
>> the IT industry, a concern came to mind in our physical security layer
>> in relation to data centre facilities. It is my understanding
>> currently in Australia (and for other countries as per discussions
>> with colleagues), colocated computer equipment provided by customers
>> is not inspected nor scanned for any potentially damaging substances
>> before being installed within data centres, by organisations providing
>> these services. At times, singular servers may be extremely bulky, and
>> there may also be occasions when customers provide multiple racks
>> fully equipped that is positioned within the data centre without any
>> closer inspection apart from basic identification checks, as per
>> understanding of information provided from some of our largest data
>> centres. Considering this, I feel it's a risk that we don't scan
>> equipment as it is being delivered/installed, similar to airports, in
>> particular when it has been delivered locally.
>> What Datacentre in Australia has allowed you to walk in off the street with a bunch of servers in cardboard boxes, with you as the client going, oh I hope you don't mind if I install  these servers in your DC.
>> Most datacentres hear in Australia require you to make an appointment before you can set foot in them and they require a signed contract before you can place equipment in them, you also need to be escorted by a security guard.
>> Plus you need to scan your ID on entry and most hold it for 12 months.
>> With the airport you can just walk in off the street and buy a ticket, its like comparing apples with oranges.
>> Oh and most DCs require you to have an access card for entry as well.
>> You could try and sign up for datacentre services using a fake credit card and a fake id, and a fake name and address, but frankly the fraud detection software is pretty good now a days and you would be reported to the AFP and other agencies pretty quickly, if you got found registering with stolen credit cards.
>> 
>> 
>> You need to have a registered business or organisation  before any DC will provide you with services.
>> Also if a server does happen to catch fire, most datacentres have fire suppression installed which will extinguish a fire pretty quickly.
>> Regards Chad.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Chad Kelly
>> Manager
>> CPK Web Services
>> web www.cpkws.com.au <http://www.cpkws.com.au/>
>> phone 03 9013 4853
>> 
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