<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This is an outstandingly stupid thread.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> - mark</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On 26 Sep 2016, at 2:42 PM, Alan Maher <<a href="mailto:alanmaher@gmail.com" class="">alanmaher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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I would respectfully suggest that the biggest risk to any data
centre,<br class="">
(excluding a disgruntled employee) would be from small aircraft.<br class="">
While the safety record of large passenger jets has improved beyond<br class="">
previous years, the safety record of small planes has not.<br class="">
Locating a data centre outside the flight path of large planes is a
good<br class="">
idea, but that makes no difference to small planes which seemingly<br class="">
crash constantly in the US, and without due regard to where they
crash.<br class="">
Just type into google, small plane crash, and you will get the
drift.<br class="">
As for the Chinese Space station, I suspect the Chinese have
sufficient technology<br class="">
available to bring it down with missiles, and if not, the then US or
Russia would.<br class="">
Most likely over the Pacific Ocean, like all the others .<br class="">
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Cheers<br class="">
Alan Maher<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/09/2016 4:32 p.m., Paul Wilkins
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<div class="">Someone also needs to do a risk assessment of the Chinese
space station landing on your data centre.<br class="">
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 26 September 2016 at 13:10, Chad
Kelly <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au" target="_blank" class="">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>></span>
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9/26/2016 9:34 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" class="">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.ne<wbr class="">t</a>
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In the last week, in reflection of previous data centre
tours I have<br class="">
undertaken across the country and the risks that face us
all within<br class="">
the IT industry, a concern came to mind in our physical
security layer<br class="">
in relation to data centre facilities. It is my
understanding<br class="">
currently in Australia (and for other countries as per
discussions<br class="">
with colleagues), colocated computer equipment provided by
customers<br class="">
is not inspected nor scanned for any potentially damaging
substances<br class="">
before being installed within data centres, by
organisations providing<br class="">
these services. At times, singular servers may be
extremely bulky, and<br class="">
there may also be occasions when customers provide
multiple racks<br class="">
fully equipped that is positioned within the data centre
without any<br class="">
closer inspection apart from basic identification checks,
as per<br class="">
understanding of information provided from some of our
largest data<br class="">
centres. Considering this, I feel it's a risk that we
don't scan<br class="">
equipment as it is being delivered/installed, similar to
airports, in<br class="">
particular when it has been delivered locally.<br class="">
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What Datacentre in Australia has allowed you to walk in off
the street with a bunch of servers in cardboard boxes, with
you as the client going, oh I hope you don't mind if I
install these servers in your DC.<br class="">
Most datacentres hear in Australia require you to make an
appointment before you can set foot in them and they require
a signed contract before you can place equipment in them,
you also need to be escorted by a security guard.<br class="">
Plus you need to scan your ID on entry and most hold it for
12 months.<br class="">
With the airport you can just walk in off the street and buy
a ticket, its like comparing apples with oranges.<br class="">
Oh and most DCs require you to have an access card for entry
as well.<br class="">
You could try and sign up for datacentre services using a
fake credit card and a fake id, and a fake name and address,
but frankly the fraud detection software is pretty good now
a days and you would be reported to the AFP and other
agencies pretty quickly, if you got found registering with
stolen credit cards.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
You need to have a registered business or organisation
before any DC will provide you with services.<br class="">
Also if a server does happen to catch fire, most datacentres
have fire suppression installed which will extinguish a fire
pretty quickly.<br class="">
Regards Chad.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><br class="">
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Chad Kelly<br class="">
Manager<br class="">
CPK Web Services<br class="">
web <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cpkws.com.au/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">www.cpkws.com.au</a><br class="">
phone 03 9013 4853<br class="">
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