<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This is an outstandingly stupid thread.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">   - mark</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On 26 Sep 2016, at 2:42 PM, Alan Maher <<a href="mailto:alanmaher@gmail.com" class="">alanmaher@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
  
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    I would respectfully suggest that the biggest risk to any data
    centre,<br class="">
    (excluding a disgruntled employee) would be from small aircraft.<br class="">
    While the safety record of large passenger jets has improved beyond<br class="">
    previous years, the safety record of small planes has not.<br class="">
    Locating a data centre outside the flight path of large planes is a
    good<br class="">
    idea, but that makes no difference to small planes which seemingly<br class="">
    crash constantly in the US, and without due regard to where they
    crash.<br class="">
    Just type into google, small plane crash, and you will get the
    drift.<br class="">
    As for the Chinese Space station, I suspect the Chinese have
    sufficient technology<br class="">
    available to bring it down with missiles, and if not, the then US or
    Russia would.<br class="">
    Most likely over the Pacific Ocean, like all the others .<br class="">
    <br class="">
    Cheers<br class="">
    Alan Maher<br class="">
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/09/2016 4:32 p.m., Paul Wilkins
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          <div class="">Someone also needs to do a risk assessment of the Chinese
            space station landing on your data centre.<br class="">
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          Kind regards<br class="">
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 26 September 2016 at 13:10, Chad
          Kelly <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:chad@cpkws.com.au" target="_blank" class="">chad@cpkws.com.au</a>></span>
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            9/26/2016 9:34 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" class="">ausnog-request@lists.ausnog.ne<wbr class="">t</a>
            wrote:<br class="">
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              In the last week, in reflection of previous data centre
              tours I have<br class="">
              undertaken across the country and the risks that face us
              all within<br class="">
              the IT industry, a concern came to mind in our physical
              security layer<br class="">
              in relation to data centre facilities. It is my
              understanding<br class="">
              currently in Australia (and for other countries as per
              discussions<br class="">
              with colleagues), colocated computer equipment provided by
              customers<br class="">
              is not inspected nor scanned for any potentially damaging
              substances<br class="">
              before being installed within data centres, by
              organisations providing<br class="">
              these services. At times, singular servers may be
              extremely bulky, and<br class="">
              there may also be occasions when customers provide
              multiple racks<br class="">
              fully equipped that is positioned within the data centre
              without any<br class="">
              closer inspection apart from basic identification checks,
              as per<br class="">
              understanding of information provided from some of our
              largest data<br class="">
              centres. Considering this, I feel it's a risk that we
              don't scan<br class="">
              equipment as it is being delivered/installed, similar to
              airports, in<br class="">
              particular when it has been delivered locally.<br class="">
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            What Datacentre in Australia has allowed you to walk in off
            the street with a bunch of servers in cardboard boxes, with
            you as the client going, oh I hope you don't mind if I
            install  these servers in your DC.<br class="">
            Most datacentres hear in Australia require you to make an
            appointment before you can set foot in them and they require
            a signed contract before you can place equipment in them,
            you also need to be escorted by a security guard.<br class="">
            Plus you need to scan your ID on entry and most hold it for
            12 months.<br class="">
            With the airport you can just walk in off the street and buy
            a ticket, its like comparing apples with oranges.<br class="">
            Oh and most DCs require you to have an access card for entry
            as well.<br class="">
            You could try and sign up for datacentre services using a
            fake credit card and a fake id, and a fake name and address,
            but frankly the fraud detection software is pretty good now
            a days and you would be reported to the AFP and other
            agencies pretty quickly, if you got found registering with
            stolen credit cards.<br class="">
            <br class="">
            <br class="">
            You need to have a registered business or organisation 
            before any DC will provide you with services.<br class="">
            Also if a server does happen to catch fire, most datacentres
            have fire suppression installed which will extinguish a fire
            pretty quickly.<br class="">
            Regards Chad.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class=""><br class="">
                <br class="">
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                <br class="">
                -- <br class="">
                Chad Kelly<br class="">
                Manager<br class="">
                CPK Web Services<br class="">
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