[AusNOG] Aus Industry Congratulations Email

Tue Sep 6 00:57:50 EST 2016

I believe the Universities provide residential Internet to students who live on campus. Depending on how they bill it, I guess would make some ISPs and others not.

Regards,

Tim Raphael

> On 5 Sep 2016, at 9:33 PM, Skeeve Stevens <skeeve+ausnog at eintellegonetworks.com> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> The list: https://www.ag.gov.au/NationalSecurity/DataRetention/Documents/DRIGP-recipients.pdf
> 
> I am absolutely stunned by this list and how much people asked for - and got.
> 
> Sure, there are people who needed the money to comply, but I think a lot of people are taking advantage of the system and should be ashamed of themselves for how much they asked for.
> 
> Yes, the government did a shit job, but this is community money - needed for us to comply with a stupid law. Not a slush fund for people to build up their business.
> 
> Universities - I don't understand. System Integrators - bullshit. VoIP providers, you are are already logging call details - why do most of you need anything?
> 
> If everyone IT integrator in the country claimed, we'd have over 2k-3k applicants and no one getting much at all.
> 
> I think a lot of people are buying new networking equipment with these funds. I am not sure the fund was designed to build the networks of ISPs.
> 
> Some of the massive requests are astounding and begs the question "WHAT are people buying with it?"
> 
> I think the AG make all the applications public since they've made the result public. We need context to some of these extremely excessive allocations.
> 
> There is no jealousy here. There is a dozen of my customers on the list, but all mostly realistic.
> 
> Those that say we should just move on have no respect for the stewardship of these resources.
> 
> Bring on the flames.
> 
> ---
> 
> Going through the list (Never heard of many of them):
> 
> - Ace - 294k - You are a small regional ISP... 294k?! C'mon, you need to justify it.
> 
> - Amaysim - 69k - You are a big phone reseller - is this all you need? #respect
> 
> - APN - 373k - Now Activ8me?  Regional ISP. You need to justify it.
> 
> - Bluenet - Aren't you just a VISP off RealWorld? 30k for what? (See below)
> 
> - Broadband Solutions. Guys, Why 2.2million. You REALLY need to justify that. Exetel, BigAir, M2, Vocus are all way less. Please explain
> 
> - BT - 4 applications? Really? Total $376k+ - Justify it.
> 
> - CipherTel - Regional and Remote WA. 439k... Justify it.
> 
> - Cirrus Communications - 18k. Your network is massive. Is that all you really need? If so.. #respect
> 
> - Cloud Comm - Who are you? 236k
> 
> - Comscentre - 840k... C'mon really?  Justify it.
> 
> - Connectivity IT - 244k. Please Justify it Tom.
> 
> - CountryTell - 180k. Curious... seems a lot for a regional ISP. Please explain
> 
> - Curtin University - 368k... I don't understand.
> 
> - Easyweb Digital - 404k. For what? Your website doesn't even say ISP, and WiFi doesn't count. Please explain.
> 
> - Firenet - 169k - I think you are going to need to explain this.
> 
> - First Focus - 153k - But it doesn't even look like you are an ISP?  Please explain.
> 
> - Frontier Networks - 301k - It doesn't look like you'd need this much.. Please explain
> 
> - GoPC - 150k. Graeme? I don't get it. You will need to explain this. As far as I know, you are not an ISP.
> 
> - Griffith Uni - 719k. Another Uni... 
> 
> - Interactive Gateway - Who? You look like an integrator, not an ISP. Please explain.
> 
> - IP Voice & Data / Vonex - 290k. You are mostly voice. Does it really cost this much to log call data which you should already do?
> 
> - M2 - 1.6M - OK you are huge, but aren't you part of Vocus now? Surely you can use the same systems
> 
> - Macquarie Telecom - A lot less than I would have expected from someone of your size. #respect
> 
> - Message4U - 1.2m - Ok, so you do a lot of texts... but so what? Please explain
> 
> - MikeIT / OpusV - 106k - You don't seem to be an ISP. Please explain
> 
> - Mobilizer - 89k. Total bullshit. Anyone who has ever met Damon knows this is a crock.
> 
> - MyNetfone - 3m. You guys are massive in voice. But 3 million?
> 
> - Novatel - 698k - Baby ISP with 1 or 2 routers... Does not justify this much. Please explain.
> 
> - Origin Net - 249k - Seems excessive.. please explain
> 
> - Pivotel - 336k - You do Satellite services? That is a lot. Please explain
> 
> - Professional Data Kinetics - 352k. You're based in Wagga doing NBN. This is a lot. Please explain.
> 
> - Radcomp / ITAUS / ITNQ - 472k. Who? Please explain
> 
> - RCOM / RNAS. 316k. Who are you?  Please explain
> 
> - Real World - 787k/912k. Really Andrew? 2 piles of cash? You couldn't use the same technology?  It is a hell of a lot of money for a network like yours in comparison to many people out there. 1.7 million dollars. Almost as much as Vocus. More than BigAir, 3 x Macquarie and MORE than TPG. You need to seriously explain yourself here.
> 
> - RMIT - 680k. Uni again
> 
> - SIS Group - 191k. Luke? Seems like a lot. Please explain.
> 
> - Spirit Telecom - 187k. Seems like a lot. Please explain.
> 
> - Tecala - 316k. Who are you? Please explain.
> 
> - Comverge - 227k+78k. You are mostly wholesale/Layer2/builders. Why? Please explain.  Why 2 applications?
> 
> - Telstra - 40m. OK, You are massive. But given who you are, don't you already log most things required by the Drip? 40m seems like a lot of money, even for you.
> 
> - The Summit Group. 1M. Greg, you are going to have to explain this.
> 
> - Vibe - 364k. Big links I know... but 364k
> 
> - Uniscope - Who? 
> 
> - Uniti - Who?
> 
> - More Universities...  UTas 12k? Wow.
> 
> - Vodafone - 28m. 28 million for what? You already log the hell out of everything - that is your job.  Even Optus only asked for 14m.
> 
> - VostroNet - 221k. Never heard of them.
> 
> - YourFibre - 147k. They don't even have a web presence I can find.
> 
> 
> 
> ...Skeeve
> 
> Skeeve Stevens - Founder & The Architect - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd
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