[AusNOG] Aus Industry Congratulations Email

[Brendan Baker]

As someone that has worked in the university sector and gone through the  extremely difficult process of gaining funding for research in technology - including data security (done by people with people with extensive qualifications), I really cannot understand this reckless approach taken by the government, that appears to allow people to make some very unjustified requests for $$.  Stunned to say the least. +1 for the audit.  You would lose your job in an instant and be stripped of your right to do research if you made such fraudulent claims of your “capabilities” and actual expenses.

BB.
(not wearing my employee cap, just my honest and educated one)

On 5 Sep 2016, at 6:58 pm, Nick Evendor <nickevendor at outlook.com<mailto:nickevendor at outlook.com>> wrote:


I thought we asked for a lot of money.... $30k

Anyone other than the big 4 networks asking for more than $100k I hope you get audited and charged with fraud.

I have lost a lot of respect for some networks operators and people on this list after seeing how much they have requested.

Nick

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+1

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Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Aus Industry Congratulations Email



Completely.  Hopefully some auditing to come.



Brent



On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au<mailto:Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>> wrote:
Looking at this list and knowing the size of some of these networks first hand, I'm completely speechless..... Hookers and blow for some companies this week I'd say!

Nathan Brookfield
Chief Executive Officer



Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
http://www.simtronic.com.au<http://www.simtronic.com.au/>

On 5 Sep. 2016, at 18:41, Brent Paddon <brent.paddon at gmail.com<mailto:brent.paddon at gmail.com>> wrote:
So you should lie about how much this is going to cost you and just put your snout in the trough ??



Awesome attitude...



Brent



On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Matt Palmer <mpalmer at hezmatt.org<mailto:mpalmer at hezmatt.org>> wrote:
On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 06:23:48PM +1000, Brent Paddon wrote:
> https://www.ag.gov.au/NationalSecurity/DataRetention/Documents/DRIGP-recipients.pdf
>
> Some of the people on that list should be ashamed of themselves for the $$
> amounts they applied for/received IMHO.

Why?  Gov't offers money, you don't turn it down.  May as well wet your beak
properly, might be a while before you get another shot.

- Matt

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