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As someone that has worked in the university sector and gone through the extremely difficult process of gaining funding for research in technology - including data security (done by people with people with extensive qualifications), I really cannot understand
this reckless approach taken by the government, that appears to allow people to make some very unjustified requests for $$. Stunned to say the least. +1 for the audit. You would lose your job in an instant and be stripped of your right to do research if
you made such fraudulent claims of your “capabilities” and actual expenses.
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I thought we asked for a lot of money.... $30k</div>
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<b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>><br class="">
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Completely. Hopefully some auditing to come.</div>
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On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Nathan Brookfield <<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>> wrote:</div>
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Looking at this list and knowing the size of some of these networks first hand, I'm completely speechless..... Hookers and blow for some companies this week I'd say!</div>
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On 5 Sep. 2016, at 18:41, Brent Paddon <<a href="mailto:brent.paddon@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">brent.paddon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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So you should lie about how much this is going to cost you and just put your snout in the trough ??</div>
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On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Matt Palmer <<a href="mailto:mpalmer@hezmatt.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mpalmer@hezmatt.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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> Some of the people on that list should be ashamed of themselves for the $$<br class="">
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Why? Gov't offers money, you don't turn it down. May as well wet your beak<br class="">
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