[AusNOG] IPv6 excuses

[Kisakye Alex]

Reading the thread on Reddit "What's your 5 year prediction for IT?" found
this
"I do support for some enterprise software and.. I'm pretty sure of it.
I haven't dealt with a single ticket where someone was trying to get
something working with IPv6.. and I would need to cram because I know just
about nothing about it. Seems the most it comes up is when something
randomly decides to use IPv6 instead of IPv4 for communication and it
breaks everything and then everyone's response is to turn off IPv6 and call
it a day"

Full thread can be found here
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4j5ua7/whats_your_5_year_prediction_for_it/

Alex

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net>
wrote:

> On 29/05/2016 11:52, Mark Newton wrote:
>
> You might argue that end users should deal with this themselves, but
>>> many end users are either incapable or uninformed, and if it's trivial
>>> to provide protection at the CPE with minimal impact, how is this a bad
>>> idea?
>>>
>>
>> Is this seriously an excuse for not deploying IPv6? That IPv6 should not
>> be
>> deployed because people on the IPv4 internet suffer application-based
>> attacks?
>>
>>
>
> ISP's do not block traffic to any IPv4 address to "protect" end users,
> they might block odd ports, say 25, etc, but thats not to protect E/U, its
> to stop E/U running mail servers, Optusnet did this when Singtel took them
> over from C&W back in 2000, but I don't think even they do know...
>
> If your ISP isn't (and they aint) responsible for protecting E/U on IPv4
> why do some think they should on IPv6....
>
> NAT offers limited security by accident, it wasn't AFAIK a deliberate
> design "selling point", I have security camera network at home, its system
> talks automagically opens its port to the world by default.. so those on
> IPv4 who think they are protected, likely have little idea as to how little
> they are...
>
> I would rather my ISP not fsck with my connection - its up to me to secure
> my devices
>
> So Marks right, its hardly a reason, in fact, its bottom of the barrel
> lazy excuse.
>
> PS
> Yes, my camera network is secured :)
> PPS
> No I dont have native IPv6 (/me looks at TPG)
>
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