[AusNOG] Telstra wholesale EA fibre shaping

[paul+ausnog at oxygennetworks.com.au]

No different to NBN mate, RSP has to do the shaping, NBN don't, it's pretty much the same with most MEF products I think.
 
Regards
Paul
 
From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Radek Tkaczyk
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:09 PM
To: Greg Lipschitz
Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net; Radek Tkaczyk
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Telstra wholesale EA fibre shaping
 
Yep we have looked at that, but it's another device in the chain and another point of potential failure, and increases the overall cost.
 
I was just curious why we were forced to do the shaping in wholesale land, but it appears that in retail land Telstra does it for the customers.
 
Is this just another example of Telstra screwing it's wholesale base?
Thanks
Radek

On 3 May 2016, at 9:45 PM, Greg Lipschitz <Greg at thesummitgroup.com.au> wrote:
The TW EA service is a TW only product.

EA is not offered via retail. It is a different product offered by Telstra Retail.

Why not use your own device as a bridge to do your shaping between the Telstra OS904 and Customer CPE?

Cheers,

Greg

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From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Radek Tkaczyk <r_tkaczyk at hotmail.com>
Sent: 03 May 2016 21:07:34
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: [AusNOG] Telstra wholesale EA fibre shaping

Hi Guys,

With Telstra Wholesale EA Fibre circuits we have always had to do the shaping on these services because Telstra would simply drop non-confirming packets that burst over the purchased bandwidth. This is typically not a problem as we would usually supply a Cisco router and just apply the shaping on the Cisco router.

However sometimes the customer wants to use their own router/firewall and connect this directly to the OS904 Fibre NTU that Telstra supply, so they have to do the shaping on their router, and a lot of people struggle to get this right.

I have been told that on Telstra retail services, for example the 50/50Mbps fibre $850 promo that Telstra retail offer, that the end users do not need to perform shaping on their equipment, that Telstra retail does the shaping for them.

Can anyone confirm if this is indeed correct? Seems strange that it is different for Telstra wholesale compared to Telstra retail.

Or have I had my head in the clouds for too long?

How are other people handling this shaping requirement?

Thanks
Radek

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