[AusNOG] AusNOG Digest, Vol 52, Issue 38
Jennings Tuala
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> 1. AAPT Authentication Server Down (Andrew Kitchen)
> 2. Re: AAPT Authentication Server Down (Ryan Spillane)
> 3. Re: AAPT Authentication Server Down (Daniel Whitehead)
> 4. Re: AAPT Authentication Server Down (Arron)
> 5. Re: AAPT Authentication Server Down (Nathan Brookfield)
> 6. Re: AAPT Authentication Server Down (Ryan Spillane)
> 7. Re: 10/10Mbps service in Cairns (Bradley Amm)
> 8. Re: 10/10Mbps service in Cairns (Bevan Slattery)
> 9. Local Alcatel Distributor? (Guy Ellis)
> 10. X25 to IP? (Andy S.)
> 11. Re: 10/10Mbps service in Cairns (Paul Brooks)
> 12. Re: X25 to IP? (Tony Wicks)
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> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 02:02:08 +0000
> From: Andrew Kitchen <a.kitchen at xi.com.au>
> To: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
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> Hey Everyone
>
> Just a heads up we are seeing authentication issues with AAPT won't allow
> connections to reauthenticate once they are disconnected.
>
> Sessions that are up aren't affected.
>
> AAPT have confirmed there is a fault but no ETR at this stage.
>
> We have two clients down including our head office in Queensland so will
> keep everyone updated.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> Andrew Kitchen | Business DevelopmentStrategist
> PO Box 3279, The Pines, Victoria, 3109
> T 1300 789 299 D 03 9909 3102 M 0449 561 461 F 03 8611 7946
> a.kitchen at xi.com.au | www.xi.com.au
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> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 02:04:45 +0000
> From: Ryan Spillane <ryan at correct.com.au>
> To: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
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> Looks like it started about 7am this morning, and Frontier stopped working
> about 25 mins ago too just to top it off
>
> Their internal NOC reference number is NOC-3141 but is a country wide issue
>
> Regards,
> Ryan Spillane
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Kitchen
> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2016 12:02 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
>
> Hey Everyone
>
> Just a heads up we are seeing authentication issues with AAPT won't allow
> connections to reauthenticate once they are disconnected.
>
> Sessions that are up aren't affected.
>
> AAPT have confirmed there is a fault but no ETR at this stage.
>
> We have two clients down including our head office in Queensland so will
> keep everyone updated.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> Andrew Kitchen | Business DevelopmentStrategist PO Box 3279, The Pines,
> Victoria, 3109 T 1300 789 299 D 03 9909 3102 M 0449 561 461 F 03 8611 7946
> a.kitchen at xi.com.au | www.xi.com.au
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> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:07:53 +1000
> From: Daniel Whitehead <daniel at whitehead.id.au>
> To: Andrew Kitchen <a.kitchen at xi.com.au>
> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
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> We're seeing same for tails Nationally. Down since 6:24am. Highly
> frustrating no ETR 6 hours into fault.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Kitchen <a.kitchen at xi.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Everyone
> >
> > Just a heads up we are seeing authentication issues with AAPT won't
> allow connections to reauthenticate once they are disconnected.
> >
> > Sessions that are up aren't affected.
> >
> > AAPT have confirmed there is a fault but no ETR at this stage.
> >
> > We have two clients down including our head office in Queensland so will
> keep everyone updated.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew Kitchen | Business DevelopmentStrategist
> > PO Box 3279, The Pines, Victoria, 3109
> > T 1300 789 299 D 03 9909 3102 M 0449 561 461 F 03 8611 7946
> > a.kitchen at xi.com.au | www.xi.com.au
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 12:09:42 +1000
> From: Arron <arron at ezi-web.com.au>
> To: "=?utf-8?Q?ausnog=40lists.ausnog.net?=" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
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> Hi.
>
> I?m seeing the same thing.?
>
> Arron Hollis
>
> From:?Andrew Kitchen <a.kitchen at xi.com.au>
> Reply:?Andrew Kitchen <a.kitchen at xi.com.au>>
> Date:?26 June 2016 at 12:01:48 PM
> To:?ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>>
> Subject:? [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
>
> Hey Everyone
>
> Just a heads up we are seeing authentication issues with AAPT won't allow
> connections to reauthenticate once they are disconnected.
>
> Sessions that are up aren't affected.
>
> AAPT have confirmed there is a fault but no ETR at this stage.
>
> We have two clients down including our head office in Queensland so will
> keep everyone updated.
>
> Regards
>
> Andrew
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> Andrew Kitchen | Business DevelopmentStrategist
> PO Box 3279, The Pines, Victoria, 3109
> T 1300 789 299 D 03 9909 3102 M 0449 561 461 F 03 8611 7946
> a.kitchen at xi.com.au | www.xi.com.au
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> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 02:11:05 +0000
> From: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>
> To: Daniel Whitehead <daniel at whitehead.id.au>, Andrew Kitchen
> <a.kitchen at xi.com.au>
> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
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> We can also confirm...
>
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)
>
>
>
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>
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> Local: (02) 4749 4949 | Fax: (02) 4749 4950 | Direct: (02) 4749 4951
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> ________________________________
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net> on behalf of Daniel
> Whitehead <daniel at whitehead.id.au>
> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2016 12:07 PM
> To: Andrew Kitchen
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
>
> We're seeing same for tails Nationally. Down since 6:24am. Highly
> frustrating no ETR 6 hours into fault.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Kitchen <a.kitchen at xi.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Everyone
> >
> > Just a heads up we are seeing authentication issues with AAPT won't
> allow connections to reauthenticate once they are disconnected.
> >
> > Sessions that are up aren't affected.
> >
> > AAPT have confirmed there is a fault but no ETR at this stage.
> >
> > We have two clients down including our head office in Queensland so will
> keep everyone updated.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew Kitchen | Business DevelopmentStrategist
> > PO Box 3279, The Pines, Victoria, 3109
> > T 1300 789 299 D 03 9909 3102 M 0449 561 461 F 03 8611 7946
> > a.kitchen at xi.com.au | www.xi.com.au<http://www.xi.com.au>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 02:23:03 +0000
> From: Ryan Spillane <ryan at correct.com.au>
> To: Nathan Brookfield <Nathan.Brookfield at simtronic.com.au>, Daniel
> Whitehead <daniel at whitehead.id.au>, Andrew Kitchen
> <a.kitchen at xi.com.au>
> Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
> Message-ID:
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> We are getting everything come back online over the past 7-10 mins now
>
> Regards,
> Ryan Spillane | Managing Director
>
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Nathan
> Brookfield
> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2016 12:11 PM
> To: Daniel Whitehead <daniel at whitehead.id.au>; Andrew Kitchen <
> a.kitchen at xi.com.au>
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
>
>
> We can also confirm...
>
>
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Nathan Brookfield (VK2NAB)
>
>
>
> Chief Executive Officer
>
> Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd
>
>
>
> Local: (02) 4749 4949 | Fax: (02) 4749 4950 | Direct: (02) 4749 4951
>
> Web: http://www.simtronic.com.au<http://www.simtronic.com.au/> | E-mail:
> nathan.brookfield at simtronic.com.au<mailto:
> nathan.brookfield at simtronic.com.au>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: AusNOG <ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:
> ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net>> on behalf of Daniel Whitehead <
> daniel at whitehead.id.au<mailto:daniel at whitehead.id.au>>
> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2016 12:07 PM
> To: Andrew Kitchen
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] AAPT Authentication Server Down
>
> We're seeing same for tails Nationally. Down since 6:24am. Highly
> frustrating no ETR 6 hours into fault.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 26 Jun 2016, at 12:02 PM, Andrew Kitchen <a.kitchen at xi.com.au<mailto:
> a.kitchen at xi.com.au>> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Everyone
> >
> > Just a heads up we are seeing authentication issues with AAPT won't
> allow connections to reauthenticate once they are disconnected.
> >
> > Sessions that are up aren't affected.
> >
> > AAPT have confirmed there is a fault but no ETR at this stage.
> >
> > We have two clients down including our head office in Queensland so will
> keep everyone updated.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >
> >
> > Andrew Kitchen | Business DevelopmentStrategist
> > PO Box 3279, The Pines, Victoria, 3109
> > T 1300 789 299 D 03 9909 3102 M 0449 561 461 F 03 8611 7946
> > a.kitchen at xi.com.au<mailto:a.kitchen at xi.com.au> | www.xi.com.au<
> http://www.xi.com.au>
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 10:12:03 +0000
> From: Bradley Amm <Bradley.Amm at telethonkids.org.au>
> To: Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au>, Paul Wilkins
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> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
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> ?Then someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a
> company that has heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers
> was politically and financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and
> growing. Conveniently quite a few are co-located in Telstra facilities?
>
> Didn?t NextGen, Optus, Telstra and PIPE, AAPT say that it would leave
> their networks stranded out in the middle of nowhere.
>
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matt
> Perkins
> Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 12:34 PM
> To: Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>
> Cc: ausnog mailing list <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
>
> The original plan called for the nbn to have only a few POI for each
> state. Then someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a
> company that has heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers
> was politically and financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and
> growing. Conveniently quite a few are co-located in Telstra facilities.
>
> Look what happened yesterday in the U.K. When the politicians
> underestimated the boomers.
>
> Matt
>
>
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> On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:27 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
> <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> This was the only use case for a National Broadband Network that ever made
> economic sense - building national infrastructure for wholesale backhaul,
> so that Cairns backhaul connectivity should be no more expensive than
> Sydney or Melbourne CBD. Sadly, we have instead both Labor and the Libs
> arguing over who gets to build a monopoly for the consumer final mile. Cart
> before horse.
> Kind regards
> Paul Wilkins
>
> On 24 June 2016 at 11:35, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au<mailto:
> matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
> It's 1500km from Cairns to Brisbane. I very much doubt a 1500km Dark fiber
> run would be $700 a month even in NZ.
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> On 24/06/2016 11:17 AM, Tony Wicks wrote:
> A Dark Fibre (single strand Site A ? exchange ? Site B) would cost
> $700/mth in NZ, my how the worm has turned?..
>
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Radek
> Tkaczyk
> Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 1:04 PM
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
>
> At $3.5k for a 10/10Mbps service, Telstra Wholesale have to be dreaming...
>
> Radek
>
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> Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:27:55 +1000
> From: Bevan Slattery <bevan at slattery.net.au>
> To: Bradley Amm <Bradley.Amm at telethonkids.org.au>
> Cc: ausnog mailing list <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
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> I'm pretty sure we argued both. Aggregation + PoI. But we were expecting
> that in a normal world it would have been considerably cheaper getting it
> from a local PoI than state aggregation PoI. Also allowed local companies
> to get local access for community.
>
> This way if you had backhaul you had an advantage/business, if not you had
> a fallback. Def said if there is not competition NBN should backhaul. It
> was 7-8 years ago now :)
>
> [b]
>
> > On 26 Jun 2016, at 8:12 PM, Bradley Amm <Bradley.Amm at telethonkids.org.au>
> wrote:
> >
> > ?Then someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a
> company that has heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers
> was politically and financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and
> growing. Conveniently quite a few are co-located in Telstra facilities?
> >
> > Didn?t NextGen, Optus, Telstra and PIPE, AAPT say that it would leave
> their networks stranded out in the middle of nowhere.
> >
> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matt
> Perkins
> > Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 12:34 PM
> > To: Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: ausnog mailing list <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
> >
> > The original plan called for the nbn to have only a few POI for each
> state. Then someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a
> company that has heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers
> was politically and financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and
> growing. Conveniently quite a few are co-located in Telstra facilities.
> >
> > Look what happened yesterday in the U.K. When the politicians
> underestimated the boomers.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > /* Matt Perkins
> > Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
> > Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au
> > Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
> > SIP 1300137379 at sip.spectrum.com.au
> > Google Talk MattAPerkins at gmail.com
> > PGP/GNUPG Public Key can be found at http://pgp.mit.edu
> > */
> >
> > On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:27 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > This was the only use case for a National Broadband Network that ever
> made economic sense - building national infrastructure for wholesale
> backhaul, so that Cairns backhaul connectivity should be no more expensive
> than Sydney or Melbourne CBD. Sadly, we have instead both Labor and the
> Libs arguing over who gets to build a monopoly for the consumer final mile.
> Cart before horse.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Paul Wilkins
> >
> > On 24 June 2016 at 11:35, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
> > It's 1500km from Cairns to Brisbane. I very much doubt a 1500km Dark
> fiber run would be $700 a month even in NZ.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > On 24/06/2016 11:17 AM, Tony Wicks wrote:
> > A Dark Fibre (single strand Site A ? exchange ? Site B) would cost
> $700/mth in NZ, my how the worm has turned?..
> >
> > From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of
> Radek Tkaczyk
> > Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 1:04 PM
> > To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
> >
> > At $3.5k for a 10/10Mbps service, Telstra Wholesale have to be
> dreaming...
> >
> > Radek
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > /* Matt Perkins
> > Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
> > Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au
> > Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
> > Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications Alliance &
> TIO
> > */
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >
> >
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:23:52 +1000
> From: Guy Ellis <guy at traverse.com.au>
> To: ausnog mailing list <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: [AusNOG] Local Alcatel Distributor?
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> Hi all,
>
> I need to purchase some Alcatel VDSL2 CO kit for a private network.
> I seriously doubt that Alcatel will sell me a single ISAM.
>
> Is there a local Alcatel distributor that deals with their 7330 and 7356
> products?
>
> Kind regards,
> - Guy.
>
> --
> Guy Ellis
> guy at traverse.com.au
> www.traverse.com.au
> T: +61 3 9489 6678 M: +61 419 398 234
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:39:45 +1000
> From: "Andy S." <ciscoarc7 at gmail.com>
> To: "AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net" <AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: [AusNOG] X25 to IP?
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>
> Hi all,
>
> Do you guys have any knowledge of a solution company that can do X25 to IP
> conversion? I'm having a difficult time looking for one that has presence
> in Japan.
>
> Let me know privately if you know one that I can contact.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Andy
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 10:40:06 +1000
> From: Paul Brooks <paul.brooks at tridentsc.com.au>
> To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
> Message-ID: <d44b45de-2031-8f26-009b-21c36bf1ad1a at tridentsc.com.au>
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>
> On 25/06/2016 2:33 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
> > The original plan called for the nbn to have only a few POI for each
> state. Then
> > someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a company
> that has
> > heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers was
> politically and
> > financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and growing.
> Conveniently quite a
> > few are co-located in Telstra facilities.
> If you think that was the original plan, I might have a bridge to sell
> you. The
> original original plan had contemplations of every ESA having to be a POI,
> to fit the
> original NBN mandate, which was to fix the lack of competitive tension in
> local-loop
> on a wide scale, without overbuilding business models or network that was
> already
> competitive.
>
> Up to the initial POI announcement, many in the industry with some
> knowledge of the
> matter expected POIs to number in the thousands - and everybody else was
> just
> guessing. This 'original plan' of which you speak was wishful thinking on
> behalf of
> the collection of wholesale-DSL-using ISPs, hoping that they could retain
> all their
> capital-city WDSL interconnects and just jumper across to the NBN PoI
> location with
> little incremental network cost. Having the number of POIs at less than
> 200, and with
> a reasonable method of determining where they were, was actually better
> for ISPs than
> it could have been.
>
> Yes, the location of most of them inside Telstra exchange buildings was
> disappointing,
> as this requires each access seeker to jump through the hoops with Telstra
> for
> exchange access as well as with NBN for PoI access. You can probably blame
> Telstra/Govt negotiations around duct facilities access for that one.
>
> Paul.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > /* Matt Perkins
> > Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
> > Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au <mailto:
> matt at spectrum.com.au>
> > Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000
> > SIP 1300137379 at sip.spectrum.com.au <mailto:
> 1300137379 at sip.spectrum.com.au>
> > Google Talk MattAPerkins at gmail.com <mailto:MattAPerkins at gmail.com
> >
> > PGP/GNUPG Public Key can be found at http://pgp.mit.edu
> > */
> >
> > On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:27 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
> > <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >> This was the only use case for a National Broadband Network that ever
> made economic
> >> sense - building national infrastructure for wholesale backhaul, so
> that Cairns
> >> backhaul connectivity should be no more expensive than Sydney or
> Melbourne CBD.
> >> Sadly, we have instead both Labor and the Libs arguing over who gets to
> build a
> >> monopoly for the consumer final mile. Cart before horse.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >>
> >> Paul Wilkins
> >>
> >> On 24 June 2016 at 11:35, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au
> >> <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's 1500km from Cairns to Brisbane. I very much doubt a 1500km
> Dark fiber run
> >> would be $700 a month even in NZ.
> >>
> >> Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 24/06/2016 11:17 AM, Tony Wicks wrote:
> >>>
> >>> A Dark Fibre (single strand Site A ? exchange ? Site B) would
> cost $700/mth
> >>> in NZ, my how the worm has turned?..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf
> Of *Radek
> >>> Tkaczyk
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, 24 June 2016 1:04 PM
> >>> *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At $3.5k for a 10/10Mbps service, Telstra Wholesale have to be
> dreaming...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Radek
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> AusNOG mailing list
> >>> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> >>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> /* Matt Perkins
> >> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd.
> >> Office 1300 133 299 matt at spectrum.com.au <mailto:
> matt at spectrum.com.au>
> >> Level 6, 350 George Street
> Sydney 2000
> >> Spectrum Networks is a member of the Communications
> Alliance & TIO
> >> */
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> AusNOG mailing list
> >> AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:42:42 +1200
> From: "Tony Wicks" <tony at wicks.co.nz>
> To: "'Andy S.'" <ciscoarc7 at gmail.com>, <AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] X25 to IP?
> Message-ID: <008e01d1d00c$d0db1a20$72914e60$@wicks.co.nz>
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> Er, 20 years ago I remember doing this using Cisco 2500?s ! If I remember
> right it required a custom IP stack on the Tandem Mainframe? enough said
> about that?.
>
>
>
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Andy S.
> Sent: Monday, 27 June 2016 12:40 PM
> To: AusNOG at lists.ausnog.net
> Subject: [AusNOG] X25 to IP?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Do you guys have any knowledge of a solution company that can do X25 to IP
> conversion? I'm having a difficult time looking for one that has presence
> in Japan.
>
>
>
> Let me know privately if you know one that I can contact.
>
>
>
> Many thanks.
>
>
> Andy
>
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