[AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns

Paul Brooks paul.brooks at tridentsc.com.au
Mon Jun 27 10:40:06 EST 2016


On 25/06/2016 2:33 PM, Matt Perkins wrote:
> The original plan called for the nbn to have only a few POI for each state. Then
> someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a company that has
> heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers was politically and
> financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and growing. Conveniently quite a
> few are co-located in Telstra facilities.
If you think that was the original plan, I might have a bridge to sell you. The
original original plan had contemplations of every ESA having to be a POI, to fit the
original NBN mandate, which was to fix the lack of competitive tension in local-loop
on a wide scale, without overbuilding business models or network that was already
competitive.

Up to the initial POI announcement, many in the industry with some knowledge of the
matter expected POIs to number in the thousands - and everybody else was just
guessing. This 'original plan' of which you speak was wishful thinking on behalf of
the collection of wholesale-DSL-using ISPs, hoping that they could retain all their
capital-city WDSL interconnects and just jumper across to the NBN PoI location with
little incremental network cost. Having the number of POIs at less than 200, and with
a reasonable method of determining where they were, was actually better for ISPs than
it could have been.

Yes, the location of most of them inside Telstra exchange buildings was disappointing,
as this requires each access seeker to jump through the hoops with Telstra for
exchange access as well as with NBN for PoI access. You can probably blame
Telstra/Govt negotiations around duct facilities access for that one.

Paul.

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> On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:27 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com
> <mailto:paulwilkins369 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> This was the only use case for a National Broadband Network that ever made economic
>> sense - building national infrastructure for wholesale backhaul, so that Cairns
>> backhaul connectivity should be no more expensive than Sydney or Melbourne CBD.
>> Sadly, we have instead both Labor and the Libs arguing over who gets to build a
>> monopoly for the consumer final mile. Cart before horse.
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Paul Wilkins
>>
>> On 24 June 2016 at 11:35, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au
>> <mailto:matt at spectrum.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>>     It's 1500km from Cairns to Brisbane. I very much doubt a 1500km Dark fiber run
>>     would be $700 a month even in NZ.
>>
>>     Matt
>>
>>
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>>     On 24/06/2016 11:17 AM, Tony Wicks wrote:
>>>
>>>     A Dark Fibre (single strand Site A – exchange – Site B) would cost  $700/mth
>>>     in NZ, my how the worm has turned…..
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     *From:*AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] *On Behalf Of *Radek
>>>     Tkaczyk
>>>     *Sent:* Friday, 24 June 2016 1:04 PM
>>>     *To:* ausnog at lists.ausnog.net <mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     At $3.5k for a 10/10Mbps service, Telstra Wholesale have to be dreaming...
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>     Radek
>>>
>>>
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