[AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns

Bevan Slattery bevan at slattery.net.au
Sun Jun 26 22:27:55 EST 2016


I'm pretty sure we argued both.  Aggregation + PoI.  But we were expecting that in a normal world it would have been considerably cheaper getting it from a local PoI than state aggregation PoI.  Also allowed local companies to get local access for community.

This way if you had backhaul you had an advantage/business, if not you had a fallback.  Def said if there is not competition NBN should backhaul.  It was 7-8 years ago now :)

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> On 26 Jun 2016, at 8:12 PM, Bradley Amm <Bradley.Amm at telethonkids.org.au> wrote:
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> “Then someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a company that has heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers was politically and financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and growing. Conveniently quite a few are co-located in Telstra facilities”
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> Didn’t NextGen, Optus, Telstra and PIPE, AAPT say that it would leave their networks stranded out in the middle of nowhere.
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> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Matt Perkins
> Sent: Saturday, 25 June 2016 12:34 PM
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> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] 10/10Mbps service in Cairns
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> The original plan called for the nbn to have only a few POI for each state. Then someone in the government pointed out that devaluing Telstra a company that has heavy investment not only by super funds but baby boomers was politically and financially not a good move. So we had 100+ poi and growing. Conveniently quite a few are co-located in Telstra facilities. 
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> Look what happened yesterday in the U.K. When the politicians underestimated the boomers. 
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> Matt
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> On 25 Jun 2016, at 11:27 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins369 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> This was the only use case for a National Broadband Network that ever made economic sense - building national infrastructure for wholesale backhaul, so that Cairns backhaul connectivity should be no more expensive than Sydney or Melbourne CBD. Sadly, we have instead both Labor and the Libs arguing over who gets to build a monopoly for the consumer final mile. Cart before horse.
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> Kind regards
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> Paul Wilkins
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> On 24 June 2016 at 11:35, Matt Perkins <matt at spectrum.com.au> wrote:
> It's 1500km from Cairns to Brisbane. I very much doubt a 1500km Dark fiber run would be $700 a month even in NZ.
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> Matt
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> On 24/06/2016 11:17 AM, Tony Wicks wrote:
> A Dark Fibre (single strand Site A – exchange – Site B) would cost  $700/mth in NZ, my how the worm has turned…..
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> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Radek Tkaczyk
> Sent: Friday, 24 June 2016 1:04 PM
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> At $3.5k for a 10/10Mbps service, Telstra Wholesale have to be dreaming...
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> Radek
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