[AusNOG] IPv6 excuses

Shane C shanec-au at outlook.com
Wed Jun 8 14:56:02 EST 2016


Well said!

No matter what you're excuse for not having started on it.... it’s just an excuse... nothing more.

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From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mike Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, 8 June 2016 2:00 PM
To: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv6 excuses

A comment from me,

I haven't looked recently, but, when I did do a check of what % of my home internet traffic was Ipv6, it was up around 70%.

70% of ALL traffic from my home LAN to/from the Internet was IPv6. (and that's before Netflix made it to this end of the planet)

I suspect the reason the IPv6 percentage was so high was due to Facebook and Youtube defaulting to IPv6.

IPv6 is already here, and already in widespread use and I can't for the life of me understand why it's not being offered more widely. Yes, I do understand the $$ argument, but there is clearly a business case for getting IPv6 into networks and making it  'Business as Usual', just like
IPv4 is now. Before the 'IPocalypse' where you can't afford to rent IPv4 addressing :-)

There is a learning curve.
Software support for IPv6 on Core equipment and CPE is getting better, but some of it is not great.
(e.g. static IPv6 prefix delegation on a Cisco, via RADIUS still has me stuffed, but I'm sure they'll fix the code/add that feature soon enough.

Regards,
Mike

Mike Taylor
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On 08/06/16 16:19, Mark Newton wrote:
> On Jun 8, 2016, at 2:02 PM, simon at attwell.net wrote:
>
>> However, all IPv6 traffic has always been counted against your quota. No access to "free" services on IPv6 like the internode mirror or Netflix. As far as I know this is still the case and you are still warned about this when enabling IPv6 in the MyInternode portal.
> This was never an issue until recently, because there weren’t any IPv6 content sources on the unmetered list anyway.
>
> The file mirror was IPv4 only (and a drop in the ocean for traffic; who cares if it’s unmetered when it’s a rounding error?). And the game server network was never IPv6.
>
> Netflix changed that, of course.
>
> My current understanding is that some software upgrades needed to fix some “crash after NNN days” on the BRAS systems have been carried out, and that was the obstacle in the way of (re)enabling unmetering for IPv6.
>
> So I’m not totally sure whether IPv6 has unmetering capability at the moment. Maybe someone like Brad can clue us in.
>
> The technical method to do it was pretty straightforward, by the way: If you set up class-based accounting on a Cisco ASR1000-series BRAS, and define two QoS classes which match IPv4 and IPv6 “deny free sites; permit any” ACLs, you’ll get a Radius accounting stream for each class. Plug that into your billing system, and away you go.
>
>> Also media providers haven't really caught on to IPv6 yet. Ten play for example will not play their "live" streams if you use IPv6. 
> But will if you’re dual stack, so that’s okay.
>
>> So whilst my home network might be fully IPv6 capable it remains disabled.
> That’s a bit weird. Why?
>
>   - mark
>
>
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