[AusNOG] IPv6 excuses

[James Hodgkinson]

This might explain why I'm having issues on Internode, with their native
dual-stack IPV6 enabled (haven't tested it without it, honestly) - but I
get VPN/proxy block issues - even though it's connecting to iinet's
local CDN nodes and I've never used an "avoider" VPN.
 
So. Freaking. Annoying. Especially when their support team are a bunch
of very-very-very non-technical people reading from scripts written by
clearly non-technical people. :(
 
James
 
 
On Wed, 8 Jun 2016, at 12:24, Ben Hohnke wrote:
> I understand they're blocking Hurricane Electrics tunnel broker v6
> ranges also, to help prevent people circumventing geo-blocks...
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:20 PM Serge Burjak
> <sburjak at systech.com.au> wrote:
>> Apparently due to geo overblocking, Netflix is telling people to turn
>>  off IPV6 in the US to make their content work.
>>
>> http://seclists.org/nanog/2016/Jun/24
>>
>>  On 31 May 2016 at 10:57, Kisakye Alex <kisakye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  > Reading the thread on Reddit "What's your 5 year prediction for
>>  > IT?" found
>>  > this
>>  > "I do support for some enterprise software and.. I'm pretty sure
>>  > of it.
>>  > I haven't dealt with a single ticket where someone was trying
>>  > to get
>>  > something working with IPv6.. and I would need to cram because I
>>  > know just
>>  > about nothing about it. Seems the most it comes up is when
>>  > something
>>  > randomly decides to use IPv6 instead of IPv4 for communication and
>>  > it breaks
>>  > everything and then everyone's response is to turn off IPv6 and
>>  > call it a
>>  > day"
>>  >
>>  > Full thread can be found here
>>  > https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/4j5ua7/whats_your_5_year_prediction_for_it/
>>  >
>>  > Alex
>>  >
>>  > On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Noel Butler
>>  > <noel.butler at ausics.net>
>>  > wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> On 29/05/2016 11:52, Mark Newton wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>>> You might argue that end users should deal with this
>>  >>>> themselves, but
>>  >>>> many end users are either incapable or uninformed, and if it's
>>  >>>> trivial
>>  >>>> to provide protection at the CPE with minimal impact, how is
>>  >>>> this a bad
>>  >>>> idea?
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Is this seriously an excuse for not deploying IPv6? That IPv6
>>  >>> should not
>>  >>> be
>>  >>> deployed because people on the IPv4 internet suffer application-
>>  >>> based
>>  >>> attacks?
>>  >>>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> ISP's do not block traffic to any IPv4 address to "protect" end
>>  >> users,
>>  >> they might block odd ports, say 25, etc, but thats not to protect
>>  >> E/U, its
>>  >> to stop E/U running mail servers, Optusnet did this when Singtel
>>  >> took them
>>  >> over from C&W back in 2000, but I don't think even they do
>>  >> know...
>>  >>
>>  >> If your ISP isn't (and they aint) responsible for protecting E/U
>>  >> on IPv4
>>  >> why do some think they should on IPv6....
>>  >>
>>  >> NAT offers limited security by accident, it wasn't AFAIK a
>>  >> deliberate
>>  >> design "selling point", I have security camera network at home,
>>  >> its system
>>  >> talks automagically opens its port to the world by default.. so
>>  >> those on
>>  >> IPv4 who think they are protected, likely have little idea as to
>>  >> how little
>>  >> they are...
>>  >>
>>  >> I would rather my ISP not fsck with my connection - its up to me
>>  >> to secure
>>  >> my devices
>>  >>
>>  >> So Marks right, its hardly a reason, in fact, its bottom of the
>>  >> barrel
>>  >> lazy excuse.
>>  >>
>>  >> PS
>>  >> Yes, my camera network is secured :)
>>  >> PPS
>>  >> No I dont have native IPv6 (/me looks at TPG)
>>  >>
>>  >> --
>>  >> If you have the urge to reply to all rather than reply to list,
>>  >> you best
>>  >> first read http://members.ausics.net/qwerty/
>>  >>
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