[AusNOG] NAT64

Nathanael Bettridge nathanael at prodigy.com.au
Wed Jul 6 17:22:37 EST 2016


Sorry should have been more specific - NAT444 vs NAT64.  But yes, they all have tradeoffs :)

-Nathanael Bettridge


From: Mark Andrews [mailto:marka at isc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 06 July 2016 17:11
To: Nathanael Bettridge
Cc: Alex Samad; ausnog at lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NAT64


In message <429C4C9BB681C54C828A0B8B353DCE551E403F44 at svr2012.pc.local><mailto:429C4C9BB681C54C828A0B8B353DCE551E403F44 at svr2012.pc.local%3e>, Nathanael Bettridge writes:
>
> Any translation system will break something. If you're weighing CGN vs
> NAT64, broken DNSSEC may be a perfectly fine tradeoff given the state of
> things.

NAT64 is a stateful CGN which also translates content between IPv4
and IPv6.

There are lots of different technologies for delivering IPv4 as a
service. They all have trade offs.

Mark

> -Nathanael Bettridge
>
>
> From: AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces at lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Mark
> Andrews
> Sent: Wednesday, 06 July 2016 08:47
> To: Alex Samad
> Cc: ausnog at lists.ausnog.net<mailto:ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NAT64
>
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> In message
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> Alex Samad writes:
> > Hi
> >
> > during my weekly purusal of the ROS forums, found this discussion on
> > NAT64
> >
> > http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42614
> >
> > Haven't really heard of people setting up for this.
> >
> > Is this something that is being planned for in Aus, any one heard of
> > companies, not ISP's setting up for this ?
>
> There are lots of alternatives for providing IPv4 as a service.
>
> NAT64 + DNS64 should be on the bottom of the list as DNS64 does not
> work with DNSSEC and does not work in practice with broken authoritative
> servers for the zones you are looking up.
>
> See also DS-Lite (two flavours), MAP (two flavours), 464XLAT (back
> to back NAT64 without the DNS64 issues).
>
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