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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> Mark Andrews [mailto:marka@isc.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 06 July 2016 17:11<br>
<b>To:</b> Nathanael Bettridge<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Alex Samad; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NAT64<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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In message <<a href="mailto:429C4C9BB681C54C828A0B8B353DCE551E403F44@svr2012.pc.local%3e">429C4C9BB681C54C828A0B8B353DCE551E403F44@svr2012.pc.local></a>, Nathanael Bettridge writes:<br>
><br>
> Any translation system will break something. If you're weighing CGN vs<br>
> NAT64, broken DNSSEC may be a perfectly fine tradeoff given the state of<br>
> things.<br>
<br>
NAT64 is a stateful CGN which also translates content between IPv4<br>
and IPv6.<br>
<br>
There are lots of different technologies for delivering IPv4 as a<br>
service. They all have trade offs.<br>
<br>
Mark<br>
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> -Nathanael Bettridge<br>
><br>
><br>
> From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Mark<br>
> Andrews<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, 06 July 2016 08:47<br>
> To: Alex Samad<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] NAT64<br>
><br>
><br>
> In message<br>
> <<a href="mailto:CAJ+Q1PV7ySLiceBSymGuVK7ofoHv4PU7aNZJX+4WavmMerRp6g@mail.gmail.com%3e">CAJ+Q1PV7ySLiceBSymGuVK7ofoHv4PU7aNZJX+4WavmMerRp6g@mail.gmail.com></a>,<br>
> Alex Samad writes:<br>
> > Hi<br>
> ><br>
> > during my weekly purusal of the ROS forums, found this discussion on<br>
> > NAT64<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42614">http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42614</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Haven't really heard of people setting up for this.<br>
> ><br>
> > Is this something that is being planned for in Aus, any one heard of<br>
> > companies, not ISP's setting up for this ?<br>
><br>
> There are lots of alternatives for providing IPv4 as a service.<br>
><br>
> NAT64 + DNS64 should be on the bottom of the list as DNS64 does not<br>
> work with DNSSEC and does not work in practice with broken authoritative<br>
> servers for the zones you are looking up.<br>
><br>
> See also DS-Lite (two flavours), MAP (two flavours), 464XLAT (back<br>
> to back NAT64 without the DNS64 issues).<br>
><br>
> > Alex<br>
> > _______________________________________________<br>
> > AusNOG mailing list<br>
> > <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net%3e">mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net></a><br>
> > <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>
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> Mark Andrews, ISC<br>
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia<br>
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