[AusNOG] census issues tonight

[Paul Wilkins]

Whatever their capacity planning, if they were working to a hard ceiling,
was fundamentally the wrong approach. The whole point of cloud is to:

1 - elastically scale
2 - gracefully limit resource exhaustion

So it seems they did the job for capacity planning as they did for their
DOS planning. They had the money to get the architecture right, wondering
where the money got spent. I'm curious if the supplier now shows a
healthier profit than if they'd done the job properly. It's only the
taxpayers money after all.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

On 11 August 2016 at 13:28, Brent Paddon <brent.paddon at gmail.com> wrote:

> So if you send a form back with your name on it, but nothing else filled
> out, how do they prove to a court that you did that [and should be fined],
> given that they're not allowed to disclose any of your census info to the
> courts? :
>
> http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/casa1905241/s19a.html
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:14 PM, John Lindsay <johnslindsay at mac.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The Act doesn't allow for fines until you have refused to submit a
>> completed form.
>>
>> The question is will the system be running by then or will they have to
>> send everyone a paper form or will they just give up?
>>
>> As every day passes the value of the data plummets.
>>
>> jsl
>> mb +61 403577711
>>
>> On 11 Aug 2016, at 12:23 PM, Robert Hudson <hudrob at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 11 August 2016 at 12:49, James Troy <james.troy at asta.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm perhaps there is a bigger picture here that were all missing, maybe
>>> they knew it wasn’t going to work but instead of spending/begging/pleading
>>> for more money they decided instead to only allow 2/10M census to be
>>> completed leaving 8M people who can be fined @ $185/day.
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Even 1 day of fines would be $1.5B, that’d pay for a nice system.
>>>
>>
>> I think that's getting a bit tinfoil hat.  There's no way anyone will be
>> paying fines when the system was unable to accept submissions.
>>
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