<div dir="ltr"><div>Whatever their capacity planning, if they were working to a hard
ceiling, was fundamentally the wrong approach. The whole point of cloud
is to:<br><br>1 - elastically scale<br></div>2 - gracefully limit resource exhaustion<br><div><br></div><div>So
it seems they did the job for capacity planning as they did for their
DOS planning. They had the money to get the architecture right,
wondering where the money got spent. I'm curious if the supplier now
shows a healthier profit than if they'd done the job properly. It's only the taxpayers money after all.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards<br><br></div><div>Paul Wilkins<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 August 2016 at 13:28, Brent Paddon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brent.paddon@gmail.com" target="_blank">brent.paddon@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">So if you send a form back with your name on it, but nothing else filled out, how do they prove to a court that you did that [and should be fined], given that they're not allowed to disclose any of your census info to the courts? :<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/casa1905241/s19a.html" target="_blank">http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/<wbr>legis/cth/consol_act/<wbr>casa1905241/s19a.html</a><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 1:14 PM, John Lindsay <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johnslindsay@mac.com" target="_blank">johnslindsay@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>The Act doesn't allow for fines until you have refused to submit a completed form.</div><div><br></div><div>The question is will the system be running by then or will they have to send everyone a paper form or will they just give up?<br><br>As every day passes the value of the data plummets. <br><br>jsl<div>mb <a href="tel:%2B61%20403577711" value="+61403577711" target="_blank">+61 403577711</a></div></div><div><div><div><br>On 11 Aug 2016, at 12:23 PM, Robert Hudson <<a href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com" target="_blank">hudrob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 August 2016 at 12:49, James Troy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james.troy@asta.com.au" target="_blank">james.troy@asta.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Hmm perhaps there is a bigger picture here that were all missing, maybe they knew it wasn’t going to work but instead of spending/begging/pleading for more money they decided instead to only allow 2/10M census to be completed leaving 8M people who can be fined @ $185/day.</span> </p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" lang="EN-AU"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Even 1 day of fines would be $1.5B, that’d pay for a nice system.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think that's getting a bit tinfoil hat. There's no way anyone will be paying fines when the system was unable to accept submissions.</div></div></div></div>
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