[AusNOG] Legal Challenge To Meta Data Laws

[Paul Wilkins]

I think there's good reasons for some of the far reaching claims that have
been made. Before the bill was law, hyperbole got ramped up because people
were concerned just being reasonable would see them ignored. But now, even
with the law passed, ACMA and CAC can't present a consistent
interpretation. Even within CAC there's different and inconsistent views.

I assume Noel you weren't suggesting anything I've said is far fetched. I'd
take a dim view to the imputation.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

On 29 September 2015 at 15:57, Noel Butler <noel.butler at ausics.net> wrote:

> On 29/09/2015 14:16, Paul Wilkins wrote:
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> The BSA relies on the Telco Act for its definition of service provider. In
> the final analysis, it comes down to whether you provide communications
> over directed electromagnetic radiation.
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> Disagree, I'm not repeating as to why, its in archives and I hate
> repeating myself :)
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> Beyond this, it's dependent what CAC can bully you into.
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> CAC didnt bully me into anything, I've always kept what they want and
> some, my email servers logs go back to 2008 and I have no plans on
> shrinking it.
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> What I find dangerous is the so called experts who are running around with
> extreme FUD, no, actually I'd go further to say deliberate lies in trying
> to scare people that ISPs must retain DNS lookups, which is utter bullshit
> and they know it, sadly the gullible media of course fall for it, in the
> old days journos would verify claims by going to the horses mouth, these
> days, well, you only have to watch the nightly news broadcasts to see how
> much they rely on facebook for their stories, sad really, and really sad.
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> There are valid gripes about this law, but if you start far fetching, you
> lose total credibility and will not be taken seriously again, so next time
> you make a submission to govt, they'll classify you as in the crackpot list
> and wont even bother reading it.
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