[AusNOG] Data Retention

[Skeeve Stevens]

Thanks Mark.

Also thanks to the few people who have sent me copies of their DRips with
anything sensitive removed.

Mark is 100% correct.  This is a very simple process and if anything the
AGD have been trying to make it a magical mystery tour, because if you
divide it is easier to conquer.

What we should be doing is coming up with an industry template and all
submitting the same (as practical) document asking for the extension.

The only way these people win is by keeping us divided and confused.


...Skeeve


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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Mark Newton <newton at atdot.dotat.org> wrote:

>
> On 23 Sep 2015, at 7:14 pm, Chad Kelly <chad at cpkws.com.au> wrote:
>
> > All the info is confidential so we can't discuss specifics.
>
> Why is it confidential? You're either an ISP/carrier offering certain
> types of services, in which case your obligations are a matter of public
> record; or you aren't.
>
> It clearly isn't privileged legal advice because you've just spoken about
> it in a public forum.
>
> Seriously, all of you people: AGD would dearly love it if this stuff was
> smoke and mirrors skullduggery, kept away from public eye; but it just
> isn't. There is no confidentiality requirement whatsoever written into the
> legislation. So talk about it. Communicate about why you're doing. Make
> sure that those outside the industry can see what a massive clusterfuck
> it is. And make sure AGD understands that none of the meetings they ever
> have with you will be confidential, put them on record with names and
> direct
> quotes every time.
>
> Or stay silent, let it all happen in secret in the shadows, extract no
> reputational blowback whatsoever from AGD, let them know they can get away
> with it, and embolden them to make it even worse in another year or two.
>
> (Or sell up, I guess. That must be an increasingly attractive option
> too...)
>
>
>   - mark
>
>
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