[AusNOG] Data retention

[Paul Wilkins]

I think it's best as an industry we recognise the cyber domain has no
special right to exemption from the rule of law. A certain amount of
surveillance by the security services is in everyone's interests. It would
be counter productive to obstruct reasonable efforts of law enforcement,
and would call into question who needs these services impervious to
scrutiny.

Kind regards

Paul Wilkins

On 12 October 2015 at 16:06, Damian Guppy <the.damo at gmail.com> wrote:

> What's your end goal? If it is to avoid the new datarention going into
> effect tomorrow, using a VPN isnt going to change what is being recorded on
> you. Dataretention is capturing Email headers on ISP (australian) email
> addresses, which a VPN wont change, and the IP assigned to your session
> when you connect (either via ADSL, NBN, 3/4G etc), which again, a VPN wont
> change.
>
> VPN also introduces a lot of other issues such as latency and GEOIP
> breakages that it reduces the end user experience of the internet, so for
> most people, pumping all their data through an international VPN is going
> to make using the internet unjoyful.
>
> Then there is the whole issue of complication, what % of australian users
> have the technical ability to set up a VPN? I would put that in the single
> digit percentage, and then what % of thoes will actually set up a VPN?
> Again I would guess maybe 10% if you're lucky? So worst case maybe a 0.5%
> increase in international traffic? That's not even factoring in how much
> was international traffic to begin with which wouldnt increase
> international usage anyway, just change how its coming in.
>
> --Damian
>
> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker <
> Alex.Samad at yieldbroker.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I see a lot of privacy advocacy groups recommending using VPN out of
>> australia. I wonder where can we see easily the change to from local
>> traffic to international traffic.
>>
>> So I have friends who are thinking of just setting up a vpn to take all
>> their traffic overseas including access to local sites, like smh commbank
>> etc etc.
>>
>> My presumption we double up on Intl traffic outbound and then inbound !
>>
>> A
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