[AusNOG] Fwd: [Internet Australia - members] Net neutrality

[Mark Andrews]

In message <1448376141.546129.448792793.355D0567 at webmail.messagingengine.com>, 
James Hodgkinson writes:
> On Tue, 24 Nov 2015, at 22:15, ausftth at mail.com wrote:
> > > [Internode zero rating Netflix] And they're doing something wrong? 
> >    Yes. Playing favorites and steering customers towards Netflix, to the de
> triment of Stan and others.
> 
> But *why* is it wrong? Do we know if Stan has offered content nodes and
> been knocked back, or asked for money after having their traffic QoS'd?
> It's not like they're marking people's quota double for the other
> company's services.
> 
> Because Stan are a relatively new player in the marketplace, should that
> mean Netflix can't leverage their capital to buy hardware and spread
> their product? Another example: A few of the providers have been
> providing free IPTV services for years, directly competing with cable TV
> - no complaints there?
> 
> Why is this new situation, where they are not *negatively* impacting
> other services (by QoS or other traffic handling methods) part of the
> net neutrality debate? It's muddying the water from the *real* issues
> that are being discussed.

If you are not zero rated then you are negatively impacted when
others are.  You have to design your product to fit the cap whereas
the other player doesn't.

If your customer has used up their allocation for the month then
you can't sell them anything while your competition that is zero
rated can.

So, yes, this is a net neutrality issue, just not a quite so obvious
one.

> James
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