[AusNOG] SPAM-MED: Re: Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise

[Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral]

I should clarify that by 'needed' I mean needed right now, not in 5, 10 or 
20 years time.
  

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 From: "Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral" 
<kristoffer.sheather at cloudcentral.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:22 AM
To: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag at rendrag.net>, "Mark Andrews" 
<marka at isc.org>
Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>, "Kristoffer 
Sheather" <kris at cloudcentral.com.au>
Subject: re: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Data Retention and CGNAT - educational 
exercise   
 If the customers needed it then the ISP's would be doing it.
    
   When it is needed every ISP under the sun that wants customers will be 
doing it.
    
   Thats the commercial and actual reality.
    
    

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   From: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag at rendrag.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:15 AM
To: "Mark Andrews" <marka at isc.org>
Cc: "ausnog at lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog at lists.ausnog.net>, "Kristoffer 
Sheather" <kris at cloudcentral.com.au>
Subject: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Data Retention and CGNAT - educational 
exercise    
   It's that 'for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device' that's 
the problem.  How many Aussie ISP's are actually doing V6 for customers?  I 
have (almost) every service on my network dual-stacked (one shared-hosting 
server is yet to be done), and 2% of my total bandwidth volume is v6.  
Would be curious to hear what others are seeing :)   
Cheers,

DG

       On 26 March 2015 at 10:11, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:   
In message <41e778700a994314857ad4504f252419 at cloudcentral.com.au>, 
"Kristoffer Sheather @ C
loudCentral" writes:
>
> IPv6 won't go anywhere until IPv4 doesn't work anymore.  That day is not
> today despite the numerous arguments and flames I expect to receive
> subsequent to this message.
>
>   Regards,
> Kristoffer Sheather

If you turn on IPv6 +50% of your traffic will shift to IPv6 immediately
for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device.  This is
*not* IPv6 going nowhere.

The content providers are going IPv6-only internally translating
IPv4 to IPv6.

If you ship CPE router make sure they are IPv6 capable.

If you do not ship CPE routers provide a list of IPv6 capable routers
you are happy with.  IPv6 routers can be got for < $100 AUD.

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