<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px"><div>I should clarify that by 'needed' I mean needed right now, not in 5, 10 or 20 years time.</div>
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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Kristoffer Sheather @ CloudCentral" <kristoffer.sheather@cloudcentral.com.au><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:22 AM<br />
<b>To</b>: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag@rendrag.net>, "Mark Andrews" <marka@isc.org><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>, "Kristoffer Sheather" <kris@cloudcentral.com.au><br />
<b>Subject</b>: re: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise</span>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px">If the customers needed it then the ISP's would be doing it.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px">When it is needed every ISP under the sun that wants customers will be doing it.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px">Thats the commercial and actual reality.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Damien Gardner Jnr" <rendrag@rendrag.net><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:15 AM<br />
<b>To</b>: "Mark Andrews" <marka@isc.org><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>, "Kristoffer Sheather" <kris@cloudcentral.com.au><br />
<b>Subject</b>: SPAM-MED: Re: [AusNOG] Data Retention and CGNAT - educational exercise</span> </span>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px">It's that 'for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device' that's the problem. How many Aussie ISP's are actually doing V6 for customers? I have (almost) every service on my network dual-stacked (one shared-hosting server is yet to be done), and 2% of my total bandwidth volume is v6. Would be curious to hear what others are seeing :) </span>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px">Cheers,</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px">On 26 March 2015 at 10:11, Mark Andrews <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marka@isc.org" target="_blank">marka@isc.org</a>></span> wrote: </span>
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<span style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px">In message <<a href="mailto:41e778700a994314857ad4504f252419@cloudcentral.com.au">41e778700a994314857ad4504f252419@cloudcentral.com.au</a>>, "Kristoffer Sheather @ C<br />
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> IPv6 won't go anywhere until IPv4 doesn't work anymore. That day is not<br />
> today despite the numerous arguments and flames I expect to receive<br />
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> Regards,<br />
> Kristoffer Sheather</span><br />
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If you turn on IPv6 +50% of your traffic will shift to IPv6 immediately<br />
for every customer that has a IPv6 capable CPE device. This is<br />
*not* IPv6 going nowhere.<br />
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The content providers are going IPv6-only internally translating<br />
IPv4 to IPv6.<br />
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If you ship CPE router make sure they are IPv6 capable.<br />
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If you do not ship CPE routers provide a list of IPv6 capable routers<br />
you are happy with. IPv6 routers can be got for < $100 AUD.<br />
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PHONE: <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209871%204742" value="+61298714742">+61 2 9871 4742</a> INTERNET: <a href="mailto:marka@isc.org">marka@isc.org</a></font></span> </span>
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