[AusNOG] Effect of Data Retention regime on smaller ISPs

[Paul Brooks]

On 17/03/2015 7:21 PM, Scott Wilson wrote:
> So, correct me if i'm wrong but...does that mean that CPE purchased by the end user
> is exempt, but CPE supplied under by the ISP will be required to keep logs?

That would be a very worthwhile discussion to have with the CAC.

Also keep in mind 187A (4)(e): "This section does not require a service provider to
keep...information about the location of a telecommunications device that is not
information used by the service provider in relation to the relevant service to which
the device is connected"

Which could mean - if you don't currently track location of a device, maybe you don't
need to log it afterall. Or maybe you do, under the bits Narelle quoted.

Clear as mud, so many contradictions. Could you see what the CAC has to say about it
all and report back?

Thanks.

Paul.






>
> -Scott
>
> On 17 March 2015 at 18:19, Narelle <narellec at gmail.com <mailto:narellec at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>     On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, John Lindsay <johnslindsay at mac.com
>     <mailto:johnslindsay at mac.com>> wrote:
>     > 5. When you provide a “mobile” (not fixed, perhaps wireless, who knows?)
>     > service you need to know where the user is within reason. Don’t waste our
>     > time with “what if they have a high gain antenna?” You know the location of
>     > your tower and that’s a good start.
>
>     From p5 explanation and examples in Attachment A Report 1 of the Data
>     Implementation Working Group:
>     "This would include information such as which cell tower, Wi-Fi
>     hotspot or base station a device was connected to at the start and end
>     of a communication."
>
>     Logically this means your access points are logging mac addresses...
>     but only those belonging to Carriage Service Providers defined under
>     the Broadcasting Services Act.
>
>     Don't say I didn't warn you...
>
>
>     Narelle
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