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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/03/2015 7:21 PM, Scott Wilson
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      <div dir="ltr">So, correct me if i'm wrong but...does that mean
        that CPE purchased by the end user is exempt, but CPE supplied
        under by the ISP will be required to keep logs?</div>
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    That would be a very worthwhile discussion to have with the CAC.<br>
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    Also keep in mind 187A (4)(e): "This section does not require a
    service provider to keep...information about the location of a
    telecommunications device that is not information used by the
    service provider in relation to the relevant service to which the
    device is connected"<br>
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    Which could mean - if you don't currently track location of a
    device, maybe you don't need to log it afterall. Or maybe you do,
    under the bits Narelle quoted.<br>
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    Clear as mud, so many contradictions. Could you see what the CAC has
    to say about it all and report back?<br>
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    Thanks.<br>
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    Paul.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 17 March 2015 at 18:19, Narelle <span
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          wrote:<br>
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              class="">On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, John Lindsay <<a
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              wrote:<br>
              > 5. When you provide a “mobile” (not fixed, perhaps
              wireless, who knows?)<br>
              > service you need to know where the user is within
              reason. Don’t waste our<br>
              > time with “what if they have a high gain antenna?”
              You know the location of<br>
              > your tower and that’s a good start.<br>
              <br>
            </span>From p5 explanation and examples in Attachment A
            Report 1 of the Data<br>
            Implementation Working Group:<br>
            "This would include information such as which cell tower,
            Wi-Fi<br>
            hotspot or base station a device was connected to at the
            start and end<br>
            of a communication."<br>
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            Logically this means your access points are logging mac
            addresses...<br>
            but only those belonging to Carriage Service Providers
            defined under<br>
            the Broadcasting Services Act.<br>
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            Don't say I didn't warn you...<br>
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                Narelle<br>
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